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Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:08 pm to Turbeauxdog
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So you're saying he had bad counsel?
No. Wrong again.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol again to suggest your course of action is laughable.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:09 pm to BTROleMisser
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And being even more in debt from Uniparty lawfare.
Not an advantage. -SFP
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:10 pm to Jbird
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Lol again to suggest your course of action is laughable.
Why? It seems preferrable to a $100M+ judgment that could be avoided if he could prove his case.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:10 pm to TDTOM
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Not an advantage. -SFP
He could have represented himself.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:11 pm to Clark14
What lies did he fall for?
Be specific.
(Betting a Pepsi Clark bitches o it & never answers)
Be specific.
(Betting a Pepsi Clark bitches o it & never answers)
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Fulton County: ‘We Don’t Dispute’ 315,000 Votes Lacking Poll Workers’ Signatures Were Counted In 2020
Earlier this month, Fulton County admitted that approximately 315,000 early votes from the 2020 election were illegally certified but were nonetheless still included in the final results of that election.
The admission came during a Dec. 9 hearing before the Georgia State Election Board (SEB) stemming from a challenge filed by David Cross, a local election integrity activist. Cross filed a challenge with the SEB in March 2022. Cross alleged that Fulton County violated Georgia statute in the handling of advanced voting ahead of the November 2020 election, counting hundreds of thousands of votes even though polling workers failed to sign off on the vote tabulation “tapes” critical to the certification process.
And Fulton County admitted to it.
Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, told the SEB in the hearing that while she has “not seen the tapes” herself, the county does “not dispute that the tapes were not signed.” Brumbaugh continued, “It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership and a new building and a new board and a new standard operating procedures. And since then the training has been enhanced. … But … we don’t dispute the allegation from the 2020 election.”
Georgia’s Secretary of State Office investigated the alleged failure to sign tabluation tapes and “substantiated” the findings that Fulton County “violated Official Election Record Document Processes when it was discovered that thirty-six (36) out of thirty-seven (37) Advanced Voting Precincts in Fulton County, Georgia failed to sign the Tabulation Tapes as required [by statute],” according to a 2024 investigation summary. In addition to probing the unsigned tabulation tapes, the investigation also found that officials at 32 polling sites failed to verify their zero tapes.
Georgia law requires that election officials have each ballot scanner print three closing tapes at the end of each voting day. Poll workers must sign these tapes or include a documented reason for refusal. Voting laws also require poll workers to begin each day of voting by printing and signing a “zero tape” showing that voting machines are starting at zero votes.
If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana, where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe the votes were leftover sample data that had not been cleared.
“These signed tapes are the sole legal certification that the reported totals are authentic,” Cross told the SEB at the Dec. 9 hearing. “Fulton County produced zero signed tabulator tapes in early voting.”
Cross stated that he obtained 77 megabytes of election records from Fulton County through an open records request that cost $15,800. According to Cross, these included 134 tabulator tapes, representing 315,000 votes. Each signature block on these tapes was blank, Cross said.
Cross also highlighted additional irregularities, such as polling locations being open at “impossibly late hours, like 2:09 a.m.” Cross also said that he found “duplicated scanner serial numbers, where the memory devices were removed from one scanner and printed on an alternate scanner.”
“These are not clerical errors. They are catastrophic breaks in chain of custody and certification,” Cross said.
“Because no tape was ever legally certified, Fulton County had no lawful authority to certify its advanced voting results to the secretary of state. Yet it did,” Cross said. “And Secretary Raffensperger accepted and folded those uncertified numbers into Georgia’s official total without questioning them. This is not partisan. This is statutory. This is the law. When the law demands three signatures on tabulator tapes and the county fails to follow the rules, those 315,000 votes are, by definition, uncertified.”
Kevin Moncla, an election integrity activist who has been at the forefront of these challenges, estimates the number is likely higher than 315,000.
Cross is asking the SEB to “impose sanctions on Fulton County, have them publicly acknowledge their violations, and for the state to decertify Fulton County’s 2020 advanced voting results. It’s not to change who sits in the White House or what the score was, but, but instead to place an indelible and permanent asterisk on the record and finally force accountability.”
The Federalist inquired with the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office as to who was responsible for accepting Fulton County’s tabulator tapes despite there being no signatures at all. The office did not return a request for comment at the time of publication.
Earlier this month, Fulton County admitted that approximately 315,000 early votes from the 2020 election were illegally certified but were nonetheless still included in the final results of that election.
The admission came during a Dec. 9 hearing before the Georgia State Election Board (SEB) stemming from a challenge filed by David Cross, a local election integrity activist. Cross filed a challenge with the SEB in March 2022. Cross alleged that Fulton County violated Georgia statute in the handling of advanced voting ahead of the November 2020 election, counting hundreds of thousands of votes even though polling workers failed to sign off on the vote tabulation “tapes” critical to the certification process.
And Fulton County admitted to it.
Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, told the SEB in the hearing that while she has “not seen the tapes” herself, the county does “not dispute that the tapes were not signed.” Brumbaugh continued, “It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership and a new building and a new board and a new standard operating procedures. And since then the training has been enhanced. … But … we don’t dispute the allegation from the 2020 election.”
Georgia’s Secretary of State Office investigated the alleged failure to sign tabluation tapes and “substantiated” the findings that Fulton County “violated Official Election Record Document Processes when it was discovered that thirty-six (36) out of thirty-seven (37) Advanced Voting Precincts in Fulton County, Georgia failed to sign the Tabulation Tapes as required [by statute],” according to a 2024 investigation summary. In addition to probing the unsigned tabulation tapes, the investigation also found that officials at 32 polling sites failed to verify their zero tapes.
Georgia law requires that election officials have each ballot scanner print three closing tapes at the end of each voting day. Poll workers must sign these tapes or include a documented reason for refusal. Voting laws also require poll workers to begin each day of voting by printing and signing a “zero tape” showing that voting machines are starting at zero votes.
If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana, where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe the votes were leftover sample data that had not been cleared.
“These signed tapes are the sole legal certification that the reported totals are authentic,” Cross told the SEB at the Dec. 9 hearing. “Fulton County produced zero signed tabulator tapes in early voting.”
Cross stated that he obtained 77 megabytes of election records from Fulton County through an open records request that cost $15,800. According to Cross, these included 134 tabulator tapes, representing 315,000 votes. Each signature block on these tapes was blank, Cross said.
Cross also highlighted additional irregularities, such as polling locations being open at “impossibly late hours, like 2:09 a.m.” Cross also said that he found “duplicated scanner serial numbers, where the memory devices were removed from one scanner and printed on an alternate scanner.”
“These are not clerical errors. They are catastrophic breaks in chain of custody and certification,” Cross said.
“Because no tape was ever legally certified, Fulton County had no lawful authority to certify its advanced voting results to the secretary of state. Yet it did,” Cross said. “And Secretary Raffensperger accepted and folded those uncertified numbers into Georgia’s official total without questioning them. This is not partisan. This is statutory. This is the law. When the law demands three signatures on tabulator tapes and the county fails to follow the rules, those 315,000 votes are, by definition, uncertified.”
Kevin Moncla, an election integrity activist who has been at the forefront of these challenges, estimates the number is likely higher than 315,000.
Cross is asking the SEB to “impose sanctions on Fulton County, have them publicly acknowledge their violations, and for the state to decertify Fulton County’s 2020 advanced voting results. It’s not to change who sits in the White House or what the score was, but, but instead to place an indelible and permanent asterisk on the record and finally force accountability.”
The Federalist inquired with the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office as to who was responsible for accepting Fulton County’s tabulator tapes despite there being no signatures at all. The office did not return a request for comment at the time of publication.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:12 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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What lies did he fall for?
Whomever created "the Kraken"
Sydney fell for it too, along with a bunch of other people on Trumps post-election legal team....for a while, at least. Then you got here:
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Kraken lawyer Sidney Powell admitted in a filing in federal court that “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.”
LINK
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:13 pm to Placekicker
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Voting laws also require poll workers to begin each day of voting by printing and signing a “zero tape” showing that voting machines are starting at zero votes.
If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted.
quote:
Cross stated that he obtained 77 megabytes of election records from Fulton County through an open records request that cost $15,800. According to Cross, these included 134 tabulator tapes, representing 315,000 votes. Each signature block on these tapes was blank, Cross said.
This is the pertinent part.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Rudy isn't dumb. He knew the power was stacked against him and they were going to their pound of flesh and ruin him anyway. So, he chose to minimize the damage as best he could and not lose thousands and thousands more in legal fees against a biased TDS judiciary.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:15 pm to Placekicker
Just a clerical error. No big deal… whoopsie! Our bad.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:16 pm to BTROleMisser
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So, he chose to minimize the damage as best he could
He did the opposite, though, which is why this theory makes no sense.
If the "power was stacked against him" for the liability portion, why wouldn't it be stacked against him at the damages portion?
The differences is if you win at the lability stage, there is no damage stage, and even if you lose, you can discredit the damage portion. By conceding, in his scenario, he permitted "the power stacked against him" to assess the damages without a real defense.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Prove his without suitable representation.
No wonder you suggested it.
No wonder you suggested it.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
1. I wasn’t asking you.
2. You still didn’t answer the question I asked.
3. Looking for valid votes isn’t illegal, a lie or the least bit unpatriotic. (In fact, AlGore’s team did exactly that in 2000)
Bet you praised it then but see nothing but treason when Trump does it.
2. You still didn’t answer the question I asked.
3. Looking for valid votes isn’t illegal, a lie or the least bit unpatriotic. (In fact, AlGore’s team did exactly that in 2000)
Bet you praised it then but see nothing but treason when Trump does it.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:19 pm to BTROleMisser
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Just a clerical error. No big deal… whoopsie! Our bad.
Fulton County had 430k votes in 2016
LINK
Fulton County had 525k votes in 2020
LINK
Fulton County had 538k votes in 2024
LINK
Do you really think that 2020 only had 210k legitimate votes in Fulton County, given the 2 elections surrounding it?
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. Wrong again.
Ok. Also on brand to avoid accountability for the totality of your statements and their conjoined implications.
As a person of personal accountability I envy those who can flail aimlessly and avoid responsibility and float around with a deluded air of superiority.
It sounds enjoyable.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you really think that 2020 only had 223k legitimate votes in Fulton County, given the 2 elections surrounding it?
If they admit custody protocols were broken, the obvious and fact based answer is ..... yes.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:21 pm to BTROleMisser
It’s quite literally what it is.
But go on keep believing goofy shite and getting mad nothing happens. Maybe someday you’ll figure it out!
But go on keep believing goofy shite and getting mad nothing happens. Maybe someday you’ll figure it out!
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