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Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:32 am to Pinecone Repair
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Like a SS card, birth certificate or drivers license? Don’t regular cops ask for IDs all the time?
Yes. When they've witnessed you commit a crime.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:33 am to Powerman
quote:What perception is that? That they’re violent?
The perception is the manner in which they're enforcing it could be viewed as tyrranical
If the illegals don’t run or resist arrest, there’s absolutely no violence.
If protesters leave ICE alone, there’s absolutely no violence.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:34 am to Powerman
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Yes. When they've witnessed you commit a crime.
Is it not a crime to be in this country illegally?
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:34 am to Powerman
You’re dumber than a box of rocks!
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:34 am to Pinecone Repair
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Don’t regular cops ask for IDs all the time?
They may and may be ignored without fear of reprisal. Now if I operate a motor vehicle, I have relinquished some the protections and can be compelled to demonstrate through the showing of a Driver's License that I am permitted to operate the vehicle on the public roadway. Cop can't stop me from driving on a private road, can't stop me from walking on the sidwalk, can't come to my house and demand I identify myself.
You're not arguing in good faith, or you're horribly ignorant of the Constitutional protections afforded to you and I (should you be an actual US citizen).
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:36 am to Tigerdew
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Is it not a crime to be in this country illegally?
How would they know if you're in the country illegally if they don't know who you are?
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:36 am to bhtigerfan
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What perception is that? That they’re violent?
If the illegals don’t run or resist arrest, there’s absolutely no violence.
If protesters leave ICE alone, there’s absolutely no violence.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:36 am to Jax Teller
Shall not be infringed is what I live by.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:37 am to blackinthesaddle
quote:Citizens get dragged out of their cars numerous times a day around the country during routine traffic stops when they fail to comply.
but dragging someone forcefully from the vehicle to issue the citation would be.
You wanna see a couple dozen videos of your people getting dragged out of a car for not showing their drivers license?
Comply with the lawful orders of law enforcement, and you won’t get your window broken and your arse dragged out of a car, be it citizens or illegals.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:37 am to Powerman
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Yes. When they've witnessed you commit a crime.
Or suspicion of having committed a crime. So, for instance, if a criminal alien is arrested in my home the cops have the right to ask for my ID. If I refuse or happen to be in the country illegally, I’m going to be detained.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:38 am to Jax Teller
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There's a difference between advocating for the 2nd amendment and being a criminal with a gun.
Quit acting like you don't know the difference.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:38 am to Powerman
I stopped at the thread title and didn’t read. This is your stupidest post ever. Thats saying a lot.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:39 am to Pinecone Repair
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Or suspicion of having committed a crime
And how would you be suspicious of someone's legal status if you have no clue who they are? You're probably not going to like where this leads.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:39 am to bhtigerfan
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You wanna see a couple dozen videos of your people getting dragged out of a car for not showing their drivers license?
Bad faith argument: foreign national detected.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:39 am to Jax Teller
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There's a difference between advocating for the 2nd amendment and being a criminal with a gun.
Legally exercising your 2nd amendment rights isn't criminal though
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:41 am to Powerman
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This group called the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense has shown up to anti ICE protests
Videos have been shown of these people saying they'll smoke ICE agents if they're attacked.
This shows how little you know about Conservatives and firearms, conveniently encapsulated in a single thread.
For one, if these idiots are lawfully bearing arms, that's fine. They also have their freedom of speech just like anyone else and, also just like anyone else, they're not immune to whatever consequences they may bring upon themselves in the process of exercising their rights and tip-toeing the line between legal and illegal.
But also, I've seen these videos. They're carrying a few. 556 AR rifles with no ammo in the mags. One of them had an AR-style .22LR rifle with the mag only half loaded. They have poor trigger discipline and clearly lack any training. They're more dangerous to themselves than anyone else. And look at their gear. L.O.L. Just wow. Tactical black plate carriers they got for $8 off of Temu and didn't bother to throw some level 4's in there.
If they started shite, any deer hunter could take the whole lot of them down easily with a bolt rifle and a decent optic if it was necessary. Study things before you assume to have a "gotcha".
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Will MAGA turn their back on the 2nd amendment?
Most on this board are "America-First" as opposed to "MAGA". But I'll speak for MAGA since the stance on the Second Amendment is one place that the MAGA and America-First paths have not bifurcated.
No. We love the Second Amendment. These people, if they are legally allowed to own and possess these firearms, have every right to do so. I would avoid them at all costs though, because I've seen their "safety" protocols and would fear accidental discharge. Stay beyond 500 yards and you'll be fine.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:42 am to Powerman
quote:How would they have done that? Are they going to illegally interfere with law enforcement operations?
“That wouldn’t have happened if we were there,” he told The Philadelphia Inquirer. “Not a single person would have gotten touched.”
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:42 am to TigerAxeOK
A very well thought out response 
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:43 am to Powerman
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How would they know if you're in the country illegally if they don't know who you are?
One way is by them being found with someone who is known to LEOs as someone who is being sought.
So, if in the process of detaining the person they’re looking for. They may find out the people who are with them at the time of contact are also here illegally.
You make it sound like they are stopping randos and demanding “papers”. With all the protest footage I’ve not seen one ICE officer demand everyone line up and show them ID. If you have that footage, please share.
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