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Why the overwhelming push for masks now?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:16 pm
It's got to have something to do with Trump's rallies.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:16 pm to loogaroo
grip on control was loosening
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:17 pm to loogaroo
Forced compliance. Can they make you do it or not?
The masks that 99.99% of Americans are wearing don’t work. It’s about as effective as a chain link fence trying to keep out mosquitoes
The masks that 99.99% of Americans are wearing don’t work. It’s about as effective as a chain link fence trying to keep out mosquitoes
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:17 pm to loogaroo
Facial recognition of people committing federal crimes while rioting
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:17 pm to loogaroo
only thing i can see is more people out and about 
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:17 pm to loogaroo
They need a way to blame Trump and/or young to middle-aged white men for the renewed rate of spreading. The mask issue is perfect for that.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:19 pm to Indefatigable
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They need a way to blame Trump and/or young to middle-aged white men for the renewed rate of spreading. The mask issue is perfect for that.
Aah, I see it now.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:25 pm to loogaroo
Because 300 million people have been cowering indoors for the past five months eating fast food, and getting no sun.
Most need a full-body mask.
It reminds me of something a friend said at halftime of a Florida game, when the flag girls were on the field "those girls need bigger flags"
Most need a full-body mask.
It reminds me of something a friend said at halftime of a Florida game, when the flag girls were on the field "those girls need bigger flags"
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:38 pm to loogaroo
have to have a scape goat. cases going up...its not the rallies/protests/riots, its because some people still arent wearing masks
its actually pretty smart, because they KNOW they will never get close to 100% compliance with masks. so they push for it knowing it can never succeed, and then they always have something to "blame" (i.e. WHY WONT TRUMP MANDATE MASKS RABBLE RABBLE)
its definitely the newest NPC message, it's crazy how lockstep they are with it all
its actually pretty smart, because they KNOW they will never get close to 100% compliance with masks. so they push for it knowing it can never succeed, and then they always have something to "blame" (i.e. WHY WONT TRUMP MANDATE MASKS RABBLE RABBLE)
its definitely the newest NPC message, it's crazy how lockstep they are with it all
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:39 pm to loogaroo
Distraction
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:42 pm to Eighteen
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its actually pretty smart, because they KNOW they will never get close to 100% compliance with masks. so they push for it knowing it can never succeed, and then they always have something to "blame"
100% correct here. The masks may take a back seat next week if there are large gatherings for the 4th over the weekend--just like Memorial Day and spring break before that.
I, for one look forward to the mental gymnastics that leftists will employ in explaining that people popping fireworks together in the street and having outdoor gatherings like BBQ's are dangerous and will kill grandma, but that protests in a similar environment and larger crowds do not spread the virus.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:44 pm to loogaroo
because if people acquiesce on their rights, the government can move on to convince folks to give up more rights.
Getting people to bend the knee with masks is giving the government implied consent to take more. They will keep going until people stop them.
Getting people to bend the knee with masks is giving the government implied consent to take more. They will keep going until people stop them.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:45 pm to RebelExpress38
The argument against government mandates on wearing masks should be rooted in the frame work of government’s only responsibility is to protect our rights granted by god. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it is not governments responsibility to protect us from disease it is impossible for them to do it that is why it is unconstitutional to force me to wear a mask
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:52 pm to loogaroo
It’s the next trick liberals are cheering while conservatives prove their compliance. Maybe they’ll give us a treat like they did with Lockdown. #1!
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:57 pm to David_DJS
There is a push for masks because of the success of Hong Kong.
It's a city of 7.5 million people with mostly public transportation and overcrowding. It's government is awful. It should be a disaster right now. But it's not.
Hong Kong has had 6 deaths during the pandemic. New York which is slightly bigger but less densely populated, has had > 20,000 deaths.
Why? Because mask usage in Hong Kong is ubiquitous.
It's a city of 7.5 million people with mostly public transportation and overcrowding. It's government is awful. It should be a disaster right now. But it's not.
Hong Kong has had 6 deaths during the pandemic. New York which is slightly bigger but less densely populated, has had > 20,000 deaths.
Why? Because mask usage in Hong Kong is ubiquitous.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:57 pm to Boudin69
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The argument against government mandates on wearing masks should be rooted in the frame work of government’s only responsibility is to protect our rights granted by god. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness
That argument would get a little wonky. You're conflating the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence with the powers vested in the federal government by the Constitution. The Declaration is not a legal document, and really does not have any substantive relationship with the way our government operates or what it is allowed to do. Its a guiding force, but none of the government's power is rooted in the document. The Constitution was drafted with those principles front and center, but "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" are not in the Const.
Article I, Sec. 8 of the Constitution is more instructive here, and lays out the powers of Congress. Congress has used the Commerce Clause (To regulate commerce ... among the several States), and language regarding its duty to provide for the "general Welfare" of the United States to enact quarantine laws and the like.
But I am not sure that mandating a mask would withstand constitutional muster. Remember than Obamacare's mandate was only upheld because it was considered a tax, in SCOTUS' view. The government could not force people to buy health insurance under the Commerce clause or any other provision of the Constitution. I would think that general line of thinking would apply here.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:59 pm to loogaroo
Maybe if we wear masks we don't have the government shut-down the economy again? I don't like wearing a mask but I'll wear one to keep the blunt instrument of gov away.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:04 pm to cwill
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Maybe if we wear masks we don't have the government shut-down the economy again? I don't like wearing a mask but I'll wear one to keep the blunt instrument of gov intervene.
And you think that state governments are going to open everything up just because a certain portion of the population wears a cloth mask some of the time? There will NEVER be 100% compliance with the masks. Probably not even 75%. You cannot get 350,000,000 people in a free society to universally do ANYTHING unless they are incredibly motivated for that purpose through fear or something else.
Every single other metric/milestone that governments have thrown out there for easing the restrictions/beginning to move on have been shifted or just simply forgotten. Why will the masks be any different? The virus is still going to spread, and there is no reason to artificially prolong the period of spreading anymore. Nothing will stop it until there is a vaccine, which there may never be.
I don't understand how people are so willing to accept that we will just have to stay at home and wear masks indefinitely for a virus that poses almost no threat to the population at-large.
There are ways to protect vulnerable populations without hindering the economic ability and societal activities of the other 99% of the population. We did that for a while, but it just cannot last forever. So tell me, when does it end?
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:06 pm to loogaroo
People were going about their lives and realizing the left wasn't really serious about Wuhan flu because they were completely cool with the riots.
They tried a new angle on "muh Russians", for about a day or two as a sorbet, and now it's back to "muh masks" and "muh shutdowns."
They know that crippling the economy gives them their best chance to beat Trump. It is ALL they care about and are willing to see millions of Americans suffer financially (perhaps permanently) to achieve that aim.
It has absolutely nothing to do with public safety and 100% to do with gaining power and control over people.
Period. Full stop.
They tried a new angle on "muh Russians", for about a day or two as a sorbet, and now it's back to "muh masks" and "muh shutdowns."
They know that crippling the economy gives them their best chance to beat Trump. It is ALL they care about and are willing to see millions of Americans suffer financially (perhaps permanently) to achieve that aim.
It has absolutely nothing to do with public safety and 100% to do with gaining power and control over people.
Period. Full stop.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:10 pm to CoachChappy
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Forced compliance. Can they make you do it or not?
This. They are constantly pushing the edge to see what they can get away with.
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