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re: Why shouldn’t the U.S. be able to purchase the base in Greenland?

Posted on 1/19/26 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47788 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 3:59 pm to
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Horse shite.

Then why is a giant AI data center being built in Louisiana instead of North Dakota? Or Alaska which is already a damn state.


why do you think it is horse shite?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37516 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:11 pm to
Please, the Russians have more than enough frozen wasteland and the Chicoms ain't coming. Even if they were to attempt getting there via the NW route via the Bering Strait.....we control the Bering Strait and the most direct passage. They certainly are not sailing around the world past South Africa and up the entire Atlantic for a frozen waste land. Chinese don't do really stupid and low payoff things.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75354 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:12 pm to
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why do you think it is horse shite?


I have worked in the data center business since 2008. Full time. I'm somewhat of an expert in data centers. I read some of the article. It's certainly cheaper to use free arctic air to cool, which I already assumed in my first reply before you posted the link. But as a data center expert, I'm telling you that your link is Clickbait editorialism. If it were all about cooling data centers, the megacompanies would already be building in Alaska, not Louisiana or Georgia. Therefore, the motivation for taking Greenland cannot be explained by wanting cold air for data centers. It is absurd, quite frankly. I tell you this as an expert in the field.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47788 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:14 pm to
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Please, the Russians have more than enough frozen wasteland and the Chicoms ain't coming. Even if they were to attempt getting there via the NW route via the Bering Strait.....we control the Bering Strait and the most direct passage. They certainly are not sailing around the world past South Africa and up the entire Atlantic for a frozen waste land. Chinese don't do really stupid and low payoff things.


china or russia could go there to chase minerals... or trump wants it to setup datacenters along with setting it up as part of a missile defense system
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
654 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:16 pm to
You think China or Russia would ever attack Greenland when there are US bases there? That would be a declaration of war on the US whether we owned it or not. The US can already build up all the defenses it wants and lease the minerals. This is 100% about Trumps ego and legacy. Russia and China can barely project power to their next door neighbors, Greenland will never be under invasion threat from either, especially if the US has forces stationed there.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17949 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:18 pm to
Did we have this level of melt when we bought Alaska from the Russians for a lot of the same reasons?

I am sure if the Louisiana purchase was today, all the retarded liberals would be losing their freaking minds.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47788 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:24 pm to
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I have worked in the data center business since 2008. Full time. I'm somewhat of an expert in data centers. I read some of the article. It's certainly cheaper to use free arctic air to cool, which I already assumed in my first reply before you posted the link. But as a data center expert, I'm telling you that your link is Clickbait editorialism. If it were all about cooling data centers, the megacompanies would already be building in Alaska, not Louisiana or Georgia. Therefore, the motivation for taking Greenland cannot be explained by wanting cold air for data centers. It is absurd, quite frankly. I tell you this as an expert in the field.


I think you are being a little short sighted. greenland is perfectly situated between the US, canada, and europe. This will allow the datacenters to be linked up to critical infrastructure with the shortest routes reducing latency.

Not only that, but like I mentioned Greenland is in a great spot to use as part of a missile defense system.

You are thinking in the here and now. Trump is thinking in the next 50 years.

Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
3226 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:32 pm to
Europe needs to think long and hard about this. If war Breaks out Russia is the only country with fighting experience. A bunch of empty airbases isn’t going to defend Europe. The U.S. is isolated as long as we control the borders and shipping lanes in North America.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:57 pm to
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Denmark can’t protect Greenland if China or Russia decide to take over part or all of the country. Europe also can’t protect Greenland


If China or Russia tried to take it over article 5 would be triggered and everyone would be protecting Greenland.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:05 pm to
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You sure? Russia saves their citizenry from social media influence and the dangers of wrong think.

Sheesh
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:07 pm to
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Sheesh


Are you stroking out or just confused by the blatant similarities between the Putin regime and the DNC’s stated goals?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Are you stroking out or just confused by the blatant similarities between the Putin regime and the DNC’s stated goals?

Non of the above. Just flabbergasted by your comment.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 5:10 pm
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:10 pm to
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Just flabbergasted by your comment.


You obviously either didn’t understand it or refuse to acknowledge reality.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:11 pm to
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You obviously either didn’t understand it or refuse to acknowledge reality.

Hopefully the former.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2293 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by AdamsHouseCat
Member since Aug 2011
519 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:15 pm to
"If China or Russia tried to take it over article 5 would be triggered and everyone would be protecting Greenland."

coach or business class?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37967 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:31 pm to
Show the current Greenlanders a spreadsheet of their guaranteed royalty checks and infrastructure improvements after the US gets the rare earth mining operations rolling, and then send them to the voting booth.

They'll tell Denmark to FO overwhelmingly.

Put a few F35s in the air and an occasional flyover by a B2 Spirit, and they'll be flying the stars and stripes in every front yard.
Posted by tigger42day
Just south of Mizery
Member since Oct 2004
7462 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:35 pm to
And who would be the one supporting Article 5?

The US.

Not Denmark, not Europe, hell they can’t defend themselves.

If we had control, they would never think of anything relating to Greenland.

But as it stands right now, there only that threat, and admins in the future might not choose to get the US in a shooting war to support Denmark.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75354 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:39 pm to
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I think you are being a little short sighted. greenland is perfectly situated between the US, canada, and europe. This will allow the datacenters to be linked up to critical infrastructure with the shortest routes reducing latency.


1- AI is immune to latency. That's why they are being built in remote places outside of fiber exchanges, such as the big one in Louisiana right now.

2- There is no critical infrastructure in Greenland. And you wouldn't necessarily want critical infrastructure so close to an adversary.

3- The critical infrastructure already exists between Canada, USA, and Europe. And it's nowhere near Greenland. And if we are thinking 50 years ahead, it's all going to be satellite based anyway. Not crude slivers of glass running across the ocean floors.
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