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re: Why should people who get paid with tips not pay taxes?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:10 pm to cattus
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:10 pm to cattus
quote:Servers in restaurants get like $2.15 hourly wage. They might make $60 in hourly pay for the week and $800 or more in tips.
Their hourly wage is taxed.
So they should only pay taxes on a small fraction of their total earnings?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:11 pm to TigerRoyale
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Because taxes are theft
Good lord
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:29 pm to cattus
Not only is the hourly wage taxed, but most waitstaff make less than the minimum hourly wage on payroll alone. I would venture to say the majority of their income is tips, which amounts to a donation-- it's not income, in the traditional sense.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:51 pm to Cryin Kelly
Because I've already paid for the product. I've already paid for the service.
I just happen to see someone that I want to give some of my money to with no fricking strings attached for 1 goddamn time in my life. I don't need the government telling me I can't, when I've already satisfied my part of the governmental bargain in sentence 1 and 2.
frick taxes.
I just happen to see someone that I want to give some of my money to with no fricking strings attached for 1 goddamn time in my life. I don't need the government telling me I can't, when I've already satisfied my part of the governmental bargain in sentence 1 and 2.
frick taxes.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:52 pm to Night Vision
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How many people accurately report the tips they earn?
Welcome to 1999 when we used cash.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:08 pm to Night Vision
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How many people accurately report the tips they earn?
When I waited tables they taxed us based on our sales. Sometimes it worked in my favor, sometimes it didn’t.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:35 pm to Cryin Kelly
Tips are gifts, not payment.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:37 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Servers in restaurants get like $2.15 hourly wage. They might make $60 in hourly pay for the week and $800 or more in tips.
So they should only pay taxes on a small fraction of their total earnings?
From my previous post
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When I waited tables 35 yo we got a "servants wage" and I think it 2 or 3 dollars an hour. Here in Seattle the service staff makes $21 an hour before tips.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:43 pm to Night Vision
Nobody. I claim around 45k and clear probably 60k. I would assume most are the same give or take a few thousand
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:15 am to cattus
quote:The "servers only make a few dollars an hour on the clock" bullshite hasn't been true in the vast majority of states for years now. Most states require the employer make up the difference up to fed or state min wage or flat out require full federal or state min wage before tips. Servers are happy to perpetuate this myth though, for obvious reasons. And as a caveat for the posters here, most, if not all states that don't, are SEC states.
When I waited tables 35 yo we got a "servants wage" and I think it 2 or 3 dollars an hour. Here in Seattle the service staff makes $21 an hour before tips.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:17 am to Pvt Hudson
A poster above mentioned most sales are card based now. In the past it was cash and surely up to the bartender to (not, typically) report them. Knowing a close friend who owns a current bar, the no tax on tips will realistically give his few employees at least $75 extra a week take home…. From card sales. Thats not huge, but a little useful chunk of cash to ease living costs.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:53 am to Cryin Kelly
He just wanted votes and all the maga would scream and cheer when he would say this idea.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:18 am to HubbaBubba
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Tips are gifts, not payment.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:22 am to theballguy
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Damn bro, is this what Democrats are now resorting to? Going after poor people? Supposed to be at least pretend to be the man of the people
LOL. Trump is a master at getting the left to eat its own.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:23 am to Cryin Kelly
To entice unskilled workers into the workforce
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:26 am to gothamdawg
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We need a simpler tax code so we can abolish the IRS and make our economy more efficient.
Correct. Tax at the point of sale is the only "fair" tax. I'm surprised they haven't tried to tax us for breathing but they have tried for basically exhaling (carbon), though.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:18 am to dalefla
I like to give tips in cash so they don’t have to pay taxes on them.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:24 am to Cryin Kelly
Tips are gifts. Gifts shouldn’t be taxed below a threshold
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:37 am to Cryin Kelly
Why do you care? How does this affect you?
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