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re: Why is there so much emphasis on wearing masks?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:27 am to TiderTom
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:27 am to TiderTom
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If your not 85 years old or have some other health issues
If you cannot breathe through the shitty paper masks they are allowing as face coverings, you might fall in the "other health issues" club and about to be counted as a wuhan flu death
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:38 am to Gaspergou202
Who is supposed to enforce these rules? I mean you have defunded the police.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:47 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
A lot of it has become executive order comply or die mentality and a lot of it is out of fear. But if this virus is transported by water droplets projected from your mouth and nose, a cloth mask would help stop you projecting it some and would help others from inhaling it some.
I don’t believe they should be required by any government entity but I also get real fed up with people saying these cloth masks are making them drop O2 levels and make it difficult to breathe. If a fricking cloth mask is making it hard for you to breathe, you’re in the at risk category and should be staying home.
I don’t believe they should be required by any government entity but I also get real fed up with people saying these cloth masks are making them drop O2 levels and make it difficult to breathe. If a fricking cloth mask is making it hard for you to breathe, you’re in the at risk category and should be staying home.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:48 am to Bulldogblitz
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you cannot breathe through the shitty paper masks they are allowing as face coverings, you might fall in the "other health issues" club and about to be counted as a wuhan flu death
I agree, but healthy people shouldn’t be forced to wear them
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:51 am to AUCom96
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What data I've seen on masks suggests around a 10% improvement in chances if wearing an n95 mask. The piece of cotton most people are wearing doesn't significantly protect against spread at all. Also, there is no end game. There is no plan. There is no x,y,z conditions to be met. It's just "wear your mask!" That's not good enough. A speed limit can give quite a bit more hard data on why it's instituted and what it's supposed to ultimately accomplish, so I don't see the comparison.
Good argument.
“What data I've seen on masks suggests around a 10% improvement in chances if wearing an n95 mask. The piece of cotton most people are wearing doesn't significantly protect against spread at all.” But if you were going to have surgery even minor or dental you would probably insist upon a mask from all in the room! Plus, if I’m not mistaken, you are quoting statistics for the prevention of the mask wearer getting sick, not the bystander.
“Also, there is no end game. There is no plan. There is no x,y,z conditions to be met. It's just "wear your mask!" You sir, are correct.
“A speed limit can give quite a bit more hard data on why it's instituted and what it's supposed to ultimately accomplish, so I don't see the comparison.” I bet if you raised the speed limit on the interstate by 10mph, deaths would not rise the 10% you decry as insignificant. You don’t see the comparison because some laws you like and support, and others you don’t.
I strongly disagree and argue against seat belt laws. If I don’t wear it, it only affects myself and loved ones. Yet if I don’t click it, I get ticket. It’s the way law works.
Did I mention I hate wearing a mask. It’s not mandatory for me, yet! And I only wear it when I come within 20 feet of a person.
I’d hate to think that I might be in the early stages of infection, do a Sun sneeze, infect another person, who passes it onto and kills their grandmother. Even if it’s only an increased 0.1% chance!
I guess I don’t equate mask wearing as the same as taking the mark of the beast, or a threat to my 2nd Amendment rights. You’re welcome to disagree. But click it or ticket.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:53 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
I’m working in a situation that has had 43 confirmed cases. Guess what everyone in the facility has been required to wear. The masks don’t do crap.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:54 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
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Why is there so much emphasis on wearing masks?
Because we have a severe mental illness problem in this country
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:56 am to Gaspergou202
There’s no misinformation in my statements. I provided 2 plausible scenarios. All the while, you never stated how a mask will prevent the spread of Covid-19 in either case.
I’ll ask my question again in very concise terms. What scientific proof has been brought forth that a mask prevents the spread of Covid-19?
I’ll ask my question again in very concise terms. What scientific proof has been brought forth that a mask prevents the spread of Covid-19?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:58 am to Bulldogblitz
th lonely antifa voter is busy this morning.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 5:59 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:03 am to Gaspergou202
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you are just beginning to feel ill, forced into public despite feeling poorly, or beginning to feel better, you are a threat to others. But even if uninfected or asymptomatic, you caugh or sneeze several times a day. This carries the risk of unintended infection of others.
You may not agree with the posted speed limit on a road, but for the safety of others you should obey it if not yourself.
Why would you be forced into the public?
The average person coughs/sneezes less than 4 times a day* and most non nasty folks actually cover their mouth to do both. A mask is not required for this purpose.
Do you really go the speed limit? Or do you, like a normal person drive the speed of traffic?
*(national library or medicine article) In this study the daily number of sneezes and of nose blowing were recorded in diary-cards over a 14 day period by 80 hospital employees and medical students, who considered themselves not to suffer from rhinitis. The results showed that more than 95% of the normal persons sneezed and blew the nose less than 4 times a day, on average. It is concluded that it is normal to sneeze and blow the nose less than 4 times daily
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:08 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
It’s like the Socialism thing, the people that have had it and/or less likely to get it, ( the rich people) tell you they are absolutely necessary and totally effective ( while off camera they live a different message). None can explain the end game, (how does Covid end if no immunity or vaccine, ( which so many are against) but once this nasty Covid (capitalism) is gone, everyone will be happy, so do your part
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:11 am to GeauxWrek
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Who is supposed to enforce these rules? I mean you have defunded the police.
I’m a huge blue supporter who believes BLM is racist and antifa is a terrorist organization!
I have not defunded the police. When did you stop beating your wife?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:14 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
People cough and sneeze when they aren't sick. They also sometimes spew droplets when they are talking.
I have allergies, and lots of things trigger sneezing attacks.
If I was presymptomatic, that sneezing would be spewing droplets with the virus.
I was at the Post Office, and the woman helping me was not wearing a mask and she coughed. I was wearing an N95 mask, so hopefully I'm ok.
Doctors I trust recommend wearing them.
I have allergies, and lots of things trigger sneezing attacks.
If I was presymptomatic, that sneezing would be spewing droplets with the virus.
I was at the Post Office, and the woman helping me was not wearing a mask and she coughed. I was wearing an N95 mask, so hopefully I'm ok.
Doctors I trust recommend wearing them.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:31 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
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I’ll ask my question again in very concise terms. What scientific proof has been brought forth that a mask prevents the spread of Covid-19?
First. What scientific proof has been put forth that masks are 0% effective in prevention of spread.
Second. Sneezing and coughing expels viruses on spit or mucus droplets. The droplets dry mid air and the dry virus floats on air currents to the next victim. Any barrier that catches the droplets (even homemade cotton) prevents the spread. Now some masks are more effective than others. But it’s like taking a leak. It flys through the air with the greatest of ease, but blue jeans will stop its flight and perhaps keep your shoes dry. But even thin underwear decreases its flight range and your chances of hitting another.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:31 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
My issue is that there is no plan. What are we working towards? It’s just “wear a mask because science”. Ok well until when? There is no end in sight. I’m not wearing a mask for the next 6 months. Not to mention so much conflicting info on whether a mask is effective or not.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:35 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
Its conditioning.
It’s to numb you to masks and dehumanize your fellow citizens.
So when the violence starts you’ll either accept it or fight it but you surely won’t try and reason with it.
It’s to numb you to masks and dehumanize your fellow citizens.
So when the violence starts you’ll either accept it or fight it but you surely won’t try and reason with it.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:38 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
It is amazing to see how people have been beaten down and made to fall in line with the masks.
Being in healthcare I am required to wear one at work. However, the second I leave clinic or the hospital that shite goes in the trash.
Masks do absolutely nothing.
I just don't go anywhere anymore because I get irrationally angry at everyone masked up.
Being in healthcare I am required to wear one at work. However, the second I leave clinic or the hospital that shite goes in the trash.
Masks do absolutely nothing.
I just don't go anywhere anymore because I get irrationally angry at everyone masked up.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:42 am to Smokeyone
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Why would you be forced into the public?
Food, medicine, taking out garbage, picking up your mail and or newspaper, or your dog needs to shite? I could go on.
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The average person coughs/sneezes less than 4 times a day* and most non nasty folks actually cover their mouth to do both. A mask is not required for this purpose.
Soooo, your saying their is 0% chance no viruses are expelled in those 4 daily events? Or that your hand is more effective at catching fluid droplets that even the least effective cotton masks.
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Do you really go the speed limit? Or do you, like a normal person drive the speed of traffic?
So when I speed, and I do, I shouldn’t expect a cop to give me a ticket? This is a sophomoric argument.
And oh, by the way, did I mention how much I hare wearing a mask?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:42 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
It’s no different than the “AIDS Ribbon”, really. Fail to comply and face scorn.
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