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re: Why is the USPS allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:48 pm to GoblinGuide
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:48 pm to GoblinGuide
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Because it's a service, not a business.
Imagine being the person in charge operating at a loss. There has to be no rules in place.
A service should always operate at a loss? What kind of shite are you on?
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:49 pm to GoblinGuide
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Because it's a service, not a business.
It is in direct competition with business.
And it's fee structure is a business model.
I have no issue with people bitching about a competitor in the marketplace posting a $2B loss per quarter.
Are we at the point in our American experiment where we just assume that the society is going to end due to an inevitable bankruptcy... so just frick it!?!?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It is really strange how much certain people treat usps as some sort of sacred national good/source of national pride It’s an antiquated vestigial structure, and it’s original purpose was to be a source of revenue for govt
Private companies delivering mail actually started around 1800. It was strictly city delivery services. But they were banned because local and state politicians were using post office director and manager jobs as reward for support (patronage system). Or they were appointing relatives to the jobs.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:13 pm to chili pup
Why is the military allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Why is the fire department allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Because they're not businesses, they're public services.
Why is the fire department allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Because they're not businesses, they're public services.

Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:24 pm to BamaAtl
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Because they're not businesses, they're public services.
The DMV is a public service. Now I go to an insurance office near my home operating a side service. It takes me 5 minutes to get a new photo license.
The DMV took an hour. I'd pull number 56 and they would say 'Now serving No. 4.' There were 8 desk operator stations. But only 4 were open. The rest were taking their hourly lunch break. Govt workers suck.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:48 pm to TrueTiger
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Just because they have that power doesn't mean they are mandated to exercise it.
Sure, and it almost certainly would be better run if it was privatized, however it is one of the few enumerated powers of Congress so I'd rather fight against Congress' usurpation of States' powers and not against one of their actual ones.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:52 pm to Zach
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The DMV is a public service.
And 'loses' money every year. Thanks for proving the point.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:54 pm to MFn GIMP
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Sure, and it almost certainly would be better run if it was privatized
Congress can abandon it if it has the political will.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:03 pm to chili pup
Our USPS mail lady bitches if there is one inch of snow in front of our mailbox and she has a 4x4 vehicle. The UPS guy says frick it and drives all the way up our 1/2 mile driveway regardless of how much snow and never complains and his rig is 2 wheel drive.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:04 pm to TrueTiger
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Congress can abandon it if it has the political will.
Correct, as I've said. But why should we focus on an actual enumerated power of Congress instead of their unconstitutional usurpations of the States?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:07 pm to BamaAtl
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Why is the military allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Why is the fire department allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Because they're not businesses, they're public services.
Those don’t have private competition. They are not competing in the marketplace. The USPS is.
Big difference.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:13 pm to chili pup
Why is the USPS, one of the few agencies specifically created by Article 8 Section 1 of the Constitution, required to operate at a profit? Does the Department of Education create a profit, or provide a service that every American can utilize at their convenience every day?
Granted, it could be more efficient.
Granted, it could be more efficient.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:17 pm to keks tadpole
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Does the Department of Education create a profit, or provide a service that every American can utilize at their convenience every day?
No and the Education Department is also unconstitutional and should be abolished. Public education is a state power not federal.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:19 pm to BamaAtl
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Why is the military allowed to continue to operate at a loss each and every year?
Because it's part of national security, possibly?
I can see going in the red paying for your freedom. We are taking about a piece of friggin paper here. Two totally different things
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:27 pm to chili pup
The USPS provides a lot of information to the watchers.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:28 pm to MFn GIMP
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and it almost certainly would be better run if it was privatized
Until half of rural areas get their service cut to keep it profitable.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:48 pm to BuckyCheese
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Frankly their rates are ridiculously low compared to UPS/FedEx for the same package and service.
And their employees are obscenely overpaid. $100k+ for a minimum wage skillset.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:02 pm to chili pup
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$2.1 billion net loss for the first quarter of fiscal 2024 — more than double its $1 billion net loss for the same period last year.
I guess I wasn't just lucky that the package I mailed recently was $13 with USPS and $35 with the other carriers.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:06 pm to chili pup
How can they fudge mail in ballots if they aren't on the payroll?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:08 pm to BamaAtl
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The DMV is a public service. And 'loses' money every year. Thanks for proving the point.
Ah, so you agree public services should be privatized. Thanks for proving my point.
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