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re: Why is the GOP so weak? Governors bending the knee everywhere re Covid

Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:14 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:14 am to
So you wont answer the question
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

quote:

quote:

you told this board for 3yrs ...
I never said anything of the sort
No one said you did
You are a strange little person.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:15 am to
Hank. The post you responded to was to TigerDoc. How old are you?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93255 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:16 am to
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at 9:02 am to TigerDoc

?Do you think you have any credibility after you told this board for 3yrs that Mueller was going to end Trump


I mean you are dumb as frick





Are you admitting you are Tigerdoc? Or just dumb as frick like tigerdoc?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:17 am to
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You try mandatory mask-wearing and should that fail, yes, force social distancing.



What outcome are you trying to achieve? Low positive tests? Or low death rate?

If everyone wears a mask and cases continue to spike but the death rate is low and gets even lower you still want the government to mandate measures? That ultimately effect businesses.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:17 am to
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Force


Explain. Please be specific.

And I do not believe Texas re-opened too early. Bars and breweries should still be open. The problem was there was no coherent (and still isn’t) policy on hospitals and how to handle Covid. How many of these hospitals got burned by admitting Covid patients who would have recovered at home? The Texas Medical Center sounded the alarms for week then almost instantly backtracked after Abbott shut down elective procedures. That says it all.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:18 am to
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I’d imagine a lot of people who probably did not need to be admitted were to make up for lost revenue


Their numbers are a bit out of whack as to level of care as well. They have a much higher percentage of patients in ICU versus number of patients hospitalized than the data we’ve seen across the country. The last time I ran the calculations, you would’ve expected around 550-600 pts in ICU based on the number of hospitalizations in Harris county. They had almost 900 in the ICU.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:18 am to
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Hank. The post you responded to was to TigerDoc
You are correct. My error.

SDV is usually buzzing about and annoying me. I did not notice that his gnat routine was directed at Doc this time.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:19 am to
I don’t believe we have real demographic data yet

But I’d imagine based off the bars Sylvester Turner put on his “wall of shame” that this virus is running rampant among Hispanics.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119777 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:19 am to
Right. And they started sounding the alarms weeks ago before Abbott tried moving to phase 3. Deaths still have not risen like they thought.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:20 am to
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What outcome are you trying to achieve? Low positive tests? Or low death rate?

If everyone wears a mask and cases continue to spike but the death rate is low and gets even lower you still want the government to mandate measures? That ultimately effect businesses.


Trying to achieve low medical harm and maximal economic growth and I believe it's not shutdowns that are hurting the economy, it's people's fear of this illness. Governments handling the outbreak confidently are winning the confidence of their publics to prepare to interact more normally again and spend themselves into each others' common prosperity.

It's about promoting effective and functioning markets which Republicans used to care about.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:21 am to
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I’d imagine a lot of people who probably did not need to be admitted were to make up for lost revenue, now the hospital’s primary revenue maker has been shut down by Abbott.



I've seen many people on different platforms post this. It's a straight up lie. Covid patients are expensive. It also really amazes me that people think that many hospitals and physicians regularly commit fraud. That's what it is when you admit patients who don't need admission. I'm not saying this could NEVER happen, but it is so extremely rare.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:21 am to
I answered. You answer.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93255 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:21 am to
And remember when Cuomo and Newsom needed those medical ships for over flow of chaos
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:21 am to
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Governments handling the outbreak confidently


Like Pritzker, Newsome and Cuomo?

Lol
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:22 am to
Muh vents
Posted by Grimhorn
Texas
Member since Mar 2018
93 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:23 am to
Harris County dashboard

Harris County peaked 3 weeks ago. Where do they see that there is an uptick in cases???
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:23 am to
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This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11424 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:24 am to
Like the hapless Italians - down to 200 cases per day. We're not going to have effective state responses without an effective national response.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:25 am to
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Instead of being truculent, would you admit that Texans started increasing social proximity too soon?



No. Not soon enough. The quicker people catch COVID the quicker we can achieve herd immunity.

Simply use the tried and true epidemiological protocol taught in med schools of quarantining the sick, protecting the people with comorbidities and allowing the healthy to act normal in lieu of this novel unscientific and political behavior called "social distancing".
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 9:27 am
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