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Why is patriotism an evil word to the left?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:18 am
I don't get why being proud to be an American is looked down upon by liberals. Can a liberal on here explain why? Don't even try to say that's not the case because it's obvious and plain as day that a great deal of liberals can't stand American values.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:20 am to Brazos
Simple.... they don't think that America deserves to be great... there are other countries as good as if not greater than us, so who are we to celebrate being great?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:20 am to Brazos
They don't like America all that much.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:21 am to Brazos
Because "Patriotism" represents an elite-ness that separates us from the rest of the world. And liberals want to be BE LIKE the rest of the world. Hence, their love for Globalism.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:23 am to TbirdSpur2010
If only they'd follow through on their threats to move to Canada.
Why do they always threaten to move to Canada and never Mexico?
Why do they always threaten to move to Canada and never Mexico?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:24 am to Brazos
I don’t get why ‘freedom loving’ Conservatives think it should be illegal to burn the US flag
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:25 am to Cajunese
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And liberals want to be BE LIKE the rest of the world.
They never want anyone to raise their standards to be like us... they want us to lower ours to be like everyone else.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:28 am to Brazos
I'm a conservative but would like to try an explanation. It appears that being a proud, patriotic American focuses on American Exceptionalism. Many or most liberals don't adhere to this as they see it as arrogant or demeaning to everyone else who isn't American. What seems to be missing is that American Exceptionalism is a concept that can be shared by everyone. If America does well and those values and ideals are utilized in other nations then they too can be exceptional. They can be proud of their exceptional nation just as Americans are. The concept of Exceptionalism is not meant to demean other countries but to inspire and lift them too. This is what liberals miss. They are too busy trying to divide us instead of truly bringing everyone together. Division and demonization is their source of power from an deceived base. This deceived base will forever stay indentured to the Democrat party until they wake up and embrace American Excepionalism. The stronger our country is then the better off they will be regarding employment, lifestyle, family.......FREEDOM. There are many other issues that lead to a healthy nation such as religion, family values, etc. But, you have to start somewhere. MAGA!!!
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:29 am to SSpaniel
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Simple.... they don't think that America deserves to be great... there are other countries as good as if not greater than us, so who are we to celebrate being great?
A lot of your moral relativist Libertarians feel the same way.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:30 am to Brazos
I think it's a combination of:
-Them picturing the caricature of the gun toting, flag waving, redneck which they think every non-Democrat is
-Them thinking it means you don't care about the rest of the world
-Them thinking it's racist because of the bad things America has done in the past
It's funny though because they fawn over most foreigners level of patriotism for their own countries. And yes, many other county's residents are way more patriotic as a whole than Americans.
But ohhh its bad when Americans are patriotic.
-Them picturing the caricature of the gun toting, flag waving, redneck which they think every non-Democrat is
-Them thinking it means you don't care about the rest of the world
-Them thinking it's racist because of the bad things America has done in the past
It's funny though because they fawn over most foreigners level of patriotism for their own countries. And yes, many other county's residents are way more patriotic as a whole than Americans.
But ohhh its bad when Americans are patriotic.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:30 am to Brazos
Oh. The left pretend to be as patriotic as frick when they wanna spew bile about their Russian conspiracy.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:15 pm to Brazos
I think Jordan Peterson has explained the political ideological spectrum the best. The Left is against societal hierarchy and the right is ok with hierarchy. Leftist believe it is the role of government to intervene and reduce societal hierarchies. The US is at the top of a global hierarchy and the left beleive that the US must be weakened in order to reduce the drastic hierarchy that exist globally. This is why most Globalists tend to be on the left side of the spectrum.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:18 pm to Brazos
Identity politics are cancer and that is all nationalism is.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:22 pm to Brazos
Liberals correlate patriotism with those minutemen men in Concord back in the day. - they were all white. Now you know.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:24 pm to PsychTiger
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Why do they always threaten to move to Canada and never Mexico?
Because in addition to not liking America, they tend not to like brown people.
Pinche racists
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:26 pm to bmy
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Identity politics are cancer and that is all nationalism is.
So pride in one's country and putting one's country first is cancer?
You would put Belgium's needs before the needs of Americans?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:43 pm to upgrayedd
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Identity politics are cancer and that is all nationalism is.
So pride in one's country and putting one's country first is cancer?
You would put Belgium's needs before the needs of Americans?
I think you missed the point, and I think a lot of people confuse patriotism with nationalism.
I don't know who said it or how long people have been making the distinction similarly, but a patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and a nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does. It should be clear that there are a lot of people who call themselves patriots long after they have started creeping over to nationalism.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:44 pm to bmy
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Identity politics are cancer
Agreed. Leftists are the worst practitioners of this, and it's not even close.
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that is all nationalism is.
Incorrect.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:45 pm to PsychTiger
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Why do they always threaten to move to Canada and never Mexico?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:46 pm to upgrayedd
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So pride in one's country and putting one's country first is cancer?
Putting the people of this country first should be the default. "Pride in the team" is just a tool for control. How else are you going to convince men to sacrifice themselves to further an agenda?
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You would put Belgium's needs before the needs of Americans?
Nope. Never.
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