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re: Why is oil above 100 dollars? Don’t we control the straight? Didn’t we win the war?

Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:59 am to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:59 am to
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This is the climax of a decades long charade unfolding before your eyes. This conflict has simply sped up the inevitable


They don’t want to hear that. It doesn’t make Trump look bad.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21072 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:00 pm to
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But is we do need to go in, you can bet your very last dollar that the base we establish in country will ever be returned.
Something tells me a ground invasion will either never happen or not quite go the way we expect it to. Otherwise we would have done it already.

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Do you support the IRGC zealots?
Not at all. I just don't want our country involved in another pointless, endless war in the Middle East just to appease Israel.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2277 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:02 pm to
Ukraine bros are hammering the shite out of Russian refineries. Oil price is tied to the global supply which is nothing new. Then you have the pipeline hit in SA. Really doesn’t have anything to do with the straight at this point but the unforced error of attacking Iran pre mid term will continue to be the msm talking point.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43800 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:02 pm to
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so the Republicans could hold Congress


They don’t want to hold Congress.

If Trump hadn’t gone into Iran, it would be something else.

Look what Ukraine did to Russia and what that did to diesel prices.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Not at all. I just don't want our country involved in another pointless, endless war in the Middle East just to appease Israel.


It has nothing to do with Israel. Those ME zealots will be eliminated. Iran was an American ally before Jimmy Carter became POTUS!!
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
7993 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:08 pm to
Its all fake. Short it after today, thank me Friday
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4612 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:08 pm to
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They don’t want to hold Congress.



So much easier to just bitch from the sidelines in the minority. They see the writing on the wall.

The GOP wants to be in the minority, so they can bitch about Democrats not pulling us out of Iran in 3 years. Just wait, you'll see it on this board.

Why is president x not getting us out of this quagmire yet? Well it's a fricking quagmire that our intelligence people knew was a quagmire but we went in there instead. But funnily enough, they won't like mentioning why we're in the quagmire.


Re: Ukraine war effect on oil prices:

As a result of Ukrainian strikes, 800,000 barrels of diesel per day are no longer exported, and instead Russia imports 45,000 barrels now.

The Hormuz Strait is normally handling 20-22 million barrels of crude per day. 15-20% of that would be refined to diesel, so at least 1.5 million barrels/day. The Saudi East-West Pipeline shutdown removes another 4-5 million barrels/day from the market, about 400,000 barrels of diesel.

So overall, out of a total shortage of 2.7 million barrels a day, at least 1.9 million are a direct result of Trump's policy. At least 70% of the price increase is on him.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 12:10 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43800 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:27 pm to
The Hormuz Strait’s effect on diesel prices is minimal. We weren’t refining enough because the crack spread wasn’t enough to incentivize our refineries. This was years in the making.

$110 Brent crude isn’t going to last long. Diesel will remain high as long as Europe is paying.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175850 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:33 pm to
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The POTUS and our military is righting the ship and will create an environment of stability for decades by neutering this area of the world.

We've enjoyed decades of stability before this stupid shite
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
26114 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:34 pm to
Hot take, tard.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11938 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Don’t we control the straight? Didn’t we win the war?


How many times can you people make the exact same post arguing against the same hyperbole?

You didn't get your fill of whining in the 100 other threads with the exact same message? What's the point of a thread that adds nothing new to the discourse? Is the 100th time you complain really that much more enjoyable than the first 50?

You guys constantly cry about Trump bloviating, but then your arguments are against his bloviations. Can you just not make the connection? Would a crayon drawing help?

If you guys could maintain just a little semblance of intellectual and emotional maturity, you might get more people on your side.

All you are doing is telling people you can't be objective and nothing you say should be considered.
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
Member since Aug 2016
2853 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:06 pm to
It’s crazy how bad Trump has bungled this term. His first term was great (aside from shutting the country down during Covid but that’s hind sight).

I voted for 2016 Trump again. That’s not what we’ve gotten
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175850 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:07 pm to
That's a lot of hot air to express that the truth hurts your feelings
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24762 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:09 pm to
400th time this question has been asked. Obviously a rhetorical question on your part. I love my EV. Get yourself one.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
7993 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:10 pm to
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We've enjoyed decades of stability before this stupid shite


Except for the instability, sure
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47503 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:11 pm to
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3. Prevent US oil, gas and diesel firms from selling product internationally. This keeps prices at home manageable and letting scumbag Europeans suffer the fate they should be suffering.


This would slow down domestic oil production, exacerbating oil price rises.
Posted by Sams Crow
Idaho
Member since Apr 2026
700 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:15 pm to
Oh ffs.
Posted by DinoSpumoni
Member since Jul 2026
134 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:30 pm to
How so? I can understand this in the long range because less revenue = less investment = less future refining capability. But, with how volatile the oil market is, once these global tensions ease (and retarded euro regs are overturned), non-domestic oil production will increase and the supply will be better positioned broadly to meet the equally broad demand.

I don’t see how it would slow production in the short term, but I’m merely speaking from an economic perspective and not an industrial perspective.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
63752 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Why is oil above 100 dollars? Don’t we control the straight? Didn’t we win the war?


This is why we need a Nixon Republican and not a DJT Republican.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77504 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:06 pm to
We don't control the Stock
Market. Oil is not scarce here. Hope that stops your bleeding.
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