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re: Why is ‘limited range’ for EV’s presented as ‘range anxiety’?

Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21443 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:26 pm to
The frick does that have to do with charging times?

Ahhhh The old BR to Chicago race. errybody knows you can’t gumball rally anymore
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44113 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Norway is not a small country


It is less than 4% of the United States in size.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1734 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 5:09 pm to
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The frick does that have to do with charging times?


Charging time is why an EV can’t win any kind of race with an ICE beyond 300 miles or so
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154573 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 5:10 pm to
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range anxiety’


Only alleviated with reparations.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22527 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:23 pm to
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It is less than 4% of the United States in size.


What does this even mean? Does this mean it will be forever impossible to use EVs in any number? Norway is an example of a society where EV usage in common and works well. You if you had to could even drive all over Louisiana with one and perhaps go to Mississippi.
I don't care if the majority of our society does not accept EVs. Look at any articles about the future of transportation in this country. You likely will see it as fiction. I guess I see farther out in the future than you do. We've been an oil and gas economy for 125 years. In that amount of time going forward, perhaps in the lifetimes of your grand kids and their kids it will be different. In the meantime do what pleases you. On a recent multi state vacation, I saw an appreciable number of EVs. I honestly DGAS what anybody drives. I drive both.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22527 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:29 pm to
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It is less than 4% of the United States in size.


Oslo to Lofoten is over 820 miles. That's a fair amount of driving.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18863 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:38 pm to
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There are battery technologies that have been proven and are being implemented that can give more range to ev's than you get out of a gas engine. Talking about ranges of about 900 miles per charge.


Vapor-ware out of China or technologies using materials and/or processes than are cost prohibitive to scale. Also, power delivery is still a huge bottleneck unless you imagine high-temperature superconductors are on the horizon.

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Gasoline efficiency in automobiles is about as good as it is going to get.


Not even close, you seriously have a very poor education on materials science if you think that.

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Look at the trends.


I do, I also have a very good grasp of thermodynamics and understand that no battery/charging technology on the horizon is going to make the order of magnitude improvements needed for EV's to truly supplant ICE vehicles in anything but commuter cars.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:39 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22685 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Does the carbon footprint of manufacturing all the new infrastructure to allow our grid to handle this new load get added to the EV’s total, or can we just act like it doesn’t exist?


Ummm wat?

My point is that it isn’t that hard to find a place to charge. You can do it at your house at night
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13081 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:48 am to
Never heard of this term, but I thought I would share a little for anyone truly interested in what it is like, or if there is anxiety for me. I have had my Tesla for about 2 1/2 weeks now and I have my first long trip today (6 hours round trip) since I picked up my car in Memphis and drove it back to LA.

I simply went to the app, put in my destination address, selected round trip, what my current battery charge is, what my lowest acceptable charge level would be, and hit plan trip. The app routes my trip, including to a tesla charging station halfway and estimates I will be there 22 minutes. (tells me what charge level I want to charge to). I start trip, once I pull out of the parking lot I select the FSD (full self-driving) and the car steers itself to the location. It really is that simple. I pay attention of course on the drive, and if I get in a construction area I take over the steering, but other than that I just sit back, enjoy a podcast or audible, etc.

EDIT: Something else that just happened that I thought was pretty cool from Tesla. I have a service appointment scheduled in a couple weeks at a service center in Texas (2 hours away) to have a hitch installed. They just notified me via app and email that I no l no longer need to come to them, that they were having their mobile team come by my address to do the install.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170595 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:50 am to
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Does the carbon footprint of manufacturing all the new infrastructure to allow our grid to handle this new load get added to the EV’s total, or can we just act like it doesn’t exist?

If course it exists. Just like developing new oil and gas extraction has a carbon footprint.

EVs will win out in the end if we can keep up with the grid. The tech world is power hungry so keeping up with both will be a problem.
Posted by Grimhorn
Texas
Member since Mar 2018
93 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:39 am to
It’s been 10+ years since I lived in Norway but the tax on cars was something like 170%. If you got an EV, the tax was much less and for awhile in Oslo at least, you could use the HOV lane if you had an EV for free (but that’s gone now.)
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