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re: Why is helping Ukraine in our national interest?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Let us negotiate our roles or you can go on your own.
Listen to yourself. We werent allowed in a peace negotiation that would have committed US troops to the defense of Ukraine? But we are going to keep sending checks until this escalates into something extremely bad for everyone. How retarded of a world leader do you have to be to accept that without challenge?
Oh wait.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Cold War (which eventually was a huge victory)
The cold war was not a huge victory.
We spent ourselves into gigantic debt. We left the founding principles of the country. Liberty took a backseat to security. I could go on and on about why it was an abject failure. The USSR was going bankrupt regardless because economically speaking communism isn't sustainable.
Your idea of winning is different than mine.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:56 am to Vacherie Saint
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We werent allowed in a peace negotiation than would have committed US troops to the defense of Ukraine?
That's literally why they scuttled the deal.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:57 am to Schleynole
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The cold war was not a huge victory.
wut
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Your idea of winning is different than mine.
Your idea of winning requires you to believe that unfettered USSR expansion would have led to a similar result.
It would eventually collapse, but when? 2050? 2100?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
so back to the Pentagon we go, tail tucked and ready to wire the next billion to Z.
awesome.
awesome.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:01 am to Plx1776
Huh, I guess I dreamed that whole invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:02 am to Schleynole
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We spent ourselves into gigantic debt. We left the founding principles of the country. Liberty took a backseat to security. I could go on and on about why it was an abject failure.
I think you're confusing the Cold War with post-9/11 era.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Your idea of winning requires you to believe that unfettered USSR expansion would have led to a similar result.
It would eventually collapse, but when? 2050? 2100?
So you don't really know much about this do you? It would have collapsed basically the same time. Of all the forms of communism, Stalinism is economically the worse.
I guess you've never thought about it, people told you we won and you just believed them. Think about it now, How is less liberty and less money a win? We gained nothing but a gigantic military industrial complex that is on the verge of starting WW3
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:08 pm to Schleynole
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It would have collapsed basically the same time. Of all the forms of communism, Stalinism is economically the worse.
Without Reagan/Thatcher/JPII (and even Gorbachev) putting the screws in, the USSR exists for at least another 20 years.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:25 pm to Padme
To OP:
-It gives the US ability to run biolabs without having to abide by international law
-It is easy to run corrupt money-making schemes with politician's families ifyou have a pro-US/NATO govt. That's why we did the 2014 coup. Obama appointee Nuland said, "F the EU" after the coup.
-It gives the US ability to run biolabs without having to abide by international law
-It is easy to run corrupt money-making schemes with politician's families ifyou have a pro-US/NATO govt. That's why we did the 2014 coup. Obama appointee Nuland said, "F the EU" after the coup.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 3:08 pm to Padme
quote:Because Ukraine peacefully gave up/ dismantled the world's 3rd largest nuclear stockpile. Many pointed at U.S. cities .
But I think I missed why it’s in our nations interest to support Ukraine
The US , UK & Russia guaranteed their Independence & Sovereignty. A Thuggish Russian regime has reneged on the Budapest Memorandum. Thankfully the US & UK especially are simply honoring their signed commitments to Ukraine.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 3:09 pm to Padme
Who says it is the best interest of this our country?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:52 pm to BigJim
Definitely. We invaded the frick out of majority brown countries and used them as a playground for missiles.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:56 pm to thermal9221
That's the real reason. Benefits.
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