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re: Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"

Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:46 pm to
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Facism is right wing. It is authoritarianism for the purpose of helping oligarchs and the political class (usually the military class, too). That is right wing by definition.


Give a modern day example
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:46 pm to
You don’t say. But so what?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:47 pm to
A modern day example of what?
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:49 pm to
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Posted by RTea
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:49 pm to
Totally wrong and stupid, are you an actual student? passes any courses? The difference between fascism and Communism is very small. The only difference being individuals are allowed to own property/businesses, the downside being they have to do the bidding of government. Still a dictatorship. In America the further right you are the more freedom you have. Pull your head out. In America the further left you go you get mandates, executive orders, open borders, inflation meaning you are far less free and exactly where we are today. Jerk.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:50 pm to
Because there was a concerted effort at the university level to tie the term to the “Neo-Nazis,” and thus...Nazis. Iirc, the transition in term usage began in earnest in the late 70’s.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:02 pm
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Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:52 pm to
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The difference between fascism and Communism is very small. The only difference being individuals are allowed to own property/businesses


Really? That’s it?
Posted by RTea
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:53 pm to
https://theobjectivestandard.com/2012/06/political-left-and-right-properly-defined/

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Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Because the left didn't want to be connected to Hitler. That is the truth.


correct. but they are.

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socialist and commies are left. the political spectrum shows fascism as just right of center. ok whatever. but what is funny is mussolini was an avowed socialist before starting fascism in italy.

Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Fascism...can be left or right...? Right?


Usually both simultaneously. Fascism is foremost poorly defined, but the common elements of fascist systems are (1) nationalism (not necessarily ethno-nationalism, though), (2) authoritarianism, (3) varying levels of state control over private corporations to accomplish state goals, and (4) goal of self-sufficiency. Everything else is up to individual government...

Can't truly be defined as left or right wing because fascism isn't really a system- similar to how 'Democracy' is neither left or right wing.

Almost all fascist governments were right-wing which is why the association is there. However, China is clearly the best example of modern fascism (though no one will admit it) and they are almost always defined as left wing.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:54 pm to
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Facism is right wing. It is authoritarianism for the purpose of helping oligarchs and the political class (usually the military class, too). That is right wing by definition.


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Give a modern day example


Based on Penrod’s definition...
The Uniparty (Biden regime) - USA

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That is right wing by definition.


After redefining the term...yes.

In reality, authoritarian regimes are hard left.

Ironically, anarchy could be considered far right.


This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted by RTea
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:54 pm to
Living under a dictatorship it makes little difference who is in charge, are you really that stupid?
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 9:55 pm
Posted by RTea
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:56 pm to
Still there is very little difference between communism and fascism. Under no stretch can fascism be considered right wing.
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:56 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:57 pm to
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what is funny is mussolini was an avowed socialist before starting fascism in italy.


So what? Reagan was a liberal at one point. For Christ’s sake, James Burnham was a former communist.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:58 pm to
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Facism is right wing. It is authoritarianism for the purpose of helping oligarchs and the political class (usually the military class, too). That is right wing by definition.


One of the main tenets of fascism is government partnership with big business. Ala what you are seeing with big tech, pharma/vaccines, and wallstreet bailouts. That’s not exclusively “right wing”. In fact most right wing types want smaller government.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 9:59 pm
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:59 pm to
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:00 pm to
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:01 pm to
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