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re: Why do Russians keep saying they're getting rid of the Nazis. They keep saying it.

Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:33 pm to
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Why do Russians keep saying they're getting rid of the Nazis. They keep saying it.


It’s simple. Have you ever seen their crest on tanks? It’s a “Z”
Anyone who isn’t a “Z” is a not “Z”!
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by TygerLyger
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:41 pm to
Hello Mr. F B Eye man.
Posted by NITEFISHER
Behind enemy lines
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Why do Russians keep saying they're getting rid of the Nazis. They keep saying it.


Because they are trying to rid Ukraine of Nazi's. Not sure why that isn't understood.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:57 pm to
"If Putin says it it must be a lie."

They just ignore all the documentation and news reports that go back years.

"There are no Nazis in Ukraine!"


Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:58 pm to
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In case you aren't joking, the ukrainian govt is full of actual nazis.
with a Jewish president. That sounds like a volatile situation. How does that work? Imagine the debates. How were they not already in a civil war?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:01 pm to
Know why the Ukrainians fought for the Nazis in WWII? Stalin starved them out and treated them like shite.

When Hitler seems like a good alternative to the current situation, it is a fricked up one.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:08 pm to
Research Lviv Pogroms.

Ukrainians murdered 100k+ Jews
Ukraine split. In the east you have Russian sympathizers and in the west you have Nazi sympathizers.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68482 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:12 pm to
It’s disingenuous to say “Ukraine has Nazis!” and then pretend the Russian Wagner group does not.

There are neo-Nazis in both countries. They all suck. But it’s still just an excuse for the Russian invasion. Russia should just stick to the NATO expansion script.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:13 pm to
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Maybe they want to get rid of Nazis and corruption in Ukraine.


Lol. Idiot.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:14 pm to
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pretend the Russian Wagner group does not


Did Oliver Stone make a movie about the Wagner Group?

Just wondering?

ETA - That was scrubbed from certain media outlets? Who's hiding what?
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:15 pm to
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with a Jewish president.


Supposedly his mother was Jewish and he's non practicing.


As he's president if he had a real issue with Nazis there wouldn't be a Nazi battalion in the Ukraine military.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28004 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Lol. Idiot.


Not the sharpest knife in the drawer there are you…

Because the nazi party is alive and well in Ukraine.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68482 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:18 pm to
I don’t know - I didn’t watch the Oliver Stone doc.

You people are so triggered. I basically just said everyone has neo-Nazis and none of them are good.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

There are neo-Nazis in both country. They all suck. But it’s still just an excuse for the Russian invasion. Russia should just stick to the NATO expansion script.



I'd say the point of it is to paint the west as Nazi sympathizers.

It's why there is so much pushback even with years of documentation. The west, and especially the left which calls anyone they don't agree with a Nazi, can't morally support a Nazi tainted regime.

The nutjobs just plug their ears while la la la'ing and the media doesn't advertise the facts that they reported a few years ago.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26247 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:11 am to
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But it’s still just an excuse for the Russian invasion. Russia should just stick to the NATO expansion script.


Why not both. Those are just two of the reasons. NATO being the biggest of those two. Other reasons exist as well.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11668 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:53 am to
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Again, I don't follow the news, but I find it hard to believe the country is rampant with Nazis


There seems to be a fairly significant and active element in Ukraine. Prior attempts to peaceful agreements have not been upheld by the far right groups. Plenty of violent clashes and other attacks have happened. Of course the narrative depends on whether you get it from a Russian or US backed news source. They do exist, and they are active. Hard to find much western based reporting about their actions though. So take it for what it’s worth and draw your own conclusions. My opinion is bad actors on both sides being propped up by the US and Russia in a political battle, and the common people of the US, Ukraine, and Russia are the losers.


But here is an article from vice about it from 2014.
Government Wants to Disarm Right-Wing Groups, But No One Is Listening


quote:

The Ukrainian government is taking a tougher stance on control over right-wing nationalist groups that have grown in prominence by ordering the disarmament of all vigilante militia groups. A bill introduced to the Ukrainian parliament Tuesday seeks to combat the “aggravation of the crime situation and systematic provocations on the part of foreigners in southeastern Ukraine and in Kiev.” Many interpret this as an attempt by the Ukrainian government to regain control over the capital from nationalist groups that have been patrolling the Euromaidan square and central Kiev for the past several weeks.

quote:

The announcement comes after violence broke out on Monday night in central Kiev, where at least one activist affiliated with the Right Sector — a nationalist group that played a significant role in the uprising in Kiev — reportedly opened fire, which left one person dead and at least three wounded in the resulting shootout with police.



Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18678 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:06 am to
The left does this too. If you perpetuate a lie long and loud enough, people will start to assume it’s legit.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11668 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:44 am to
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If you perpetuate a lie long and loud enough, people will start to assume it’s legit.




Except in Ukraine they do exist, cause violence, and hold some seats in the Rada and other government offices at different levels. What this hopefully does is open the eyes of some people who don’t believe there is a globalist agenda at work.

Right wing nazis in the US bad (and activities and numbers greatly exaggerated by the media ), right wing nazis in the Ukraine ok and understated their activities suppressed by the media. Communists in Ukraine bad and communists in the US ok and understated and actions covered up by the media.

So to the globalists, they don’t care what you are, as long as you destabilize and help them achieve their agenda.
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