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re: Why do liberals get so upset over abortion?

Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:50 am to
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7865 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:50 am to
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I'm not a fan of abortion, but I understand how life can put you in a tough spot. I just wish Planned Parenthood did all the things they say they do. "preventive care, including birth control, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, and screenings for cervical and other cancers." The issue is we all know that's not happening.


Here is the only problem I see with overturning Roe. Now what? What has been done to improve the foster and adoption systems? We have now taken away a plan of action, whether you support it or not. What are we doing as a society to further support the children, family unit, etc.
Posted by Pooturd
Knoxville
Member since Mar 2020
1258 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:55 am to
I remember just a few years ago they at least pretended it was a deeply personal issue and a hard choice for women to make. Now they celebrate with abortion cakes. They’d have abortions every day for the sake of it if they could
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 11:56 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58316 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:57 am to
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Why do liberals get so upset over abortion?



Because most don’t believe in God or an afterlife and only live for the now. And because they don’t believe in moral absolutes, all their decisions are based only on,” how does this help me.”
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:57 am to
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Why would you advocate to treat one form of life differently from another?


Because in the questioned situation they are inherently different. Are all of your questions going to be this easy?

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If a woman, a form of life, has autonomy, why would you treat a fetus, another form of life, any differently?


Because fetuses do not have bodily autonomy. How many times does this need to be stated before you will understand it? I do not treat things without bodily autonomy as if they did. Why would I?

Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:58 am to
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I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug?


This analogy only works for 1% of abortion cases like rape and incest. Your analogy includes life or death of both parties, which isn't the case here.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:59 am to
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"preventive care, including birth control, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, and screenings for cervical and other cancers."

The issue is we all know that's not happening.




When is the last time you were in a planned parenthood?
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:59 am to
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I don't care what your beliefs are but I support your ability to have them.


Thank you for not destroying me verbally.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45916 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:01 pm to
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bodily autonomy


Great buzzword. She didn't have bodily autonomy when she had a dick splooge inside of her. She didn't have bodily autonomy when another life sprung up inside her. SHE DOES, however, have "bodily autonomy" to keep either of those things from happening.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:02 pm to
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When is the last time you were in a planned parenthood?


How many undercover videos do you need to see to understand that PP isn't about reproductive health, and it is all about abortion?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7865 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:02 pm to
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Because in the questioned situation they are inherently different. Are all of your questions going to be this easy?


They are not. No more different than any other life form. You should strive to be more equality driven.


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Because fetuses do not have bodily autonomy. How many times does this need to be stated before you will understand it? I do not treat things without bodily autonomy as if they did. Why would I?


Saying it doesn’t make it right. Or accurate. Philosophically and practically that’s discriminatory.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14670 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Why do liberals get so upset over abortion?


For the same reason conservatives get so upset about it. Because they don't hold to your religious values, just as you don't hold to their secular values.

This isn't complicated.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Saying it doesn’t make it right. Or accurate.


You're right. It's accurate because fetuses do not have bodily autonomy.

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Philosophically and practically that’s discriminatory.



Thankfully not discriminatory in any problematic way. Really dodged a bullet on that one.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22776 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:05 pm to
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The absolute zeal they have for it is incredible. That tends to happen when the alternative is denying bodily autonomy to an entire sex.


Vaccine mandates and the lefts support of it killed this talking point
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:06 pm to
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How many undercover videos do you need to see to understand that PP isn't about reproductive health, and it is all about abortion?



I don't watch propaganda.

You don't need to either. You could have at any time in the past walked into a planned parenthood. Since you have such strong opinions on what goes on inside of one, when was the last time you were inside a planned parenthood?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6844 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:07 pm to
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I kind of feel the other way. If some THOT wants to terminate her pregnancy, who cares?

I agree. Look at all the people who are upset the most about this. Are they really the type of people we want pro-creating? No, not even close to it.


I am not against abortions for the same above reasons. However, simply just allowing it without any consequence does nothing to slow the process.
Want to get an abortion? Fine. Since we know that both mother and father are lazy unaccountable pos, should then deny access to any handouts for x amount of years, maybe even consider getting permanently fixed. Since we know these trashy people are not likely to contribute much to society, at least at that point in their life, incetivize them with 500 dollars to get snipped. Problem will eventually decrease to negligible amounts.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79457 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:07 pm to
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You don't need to either. You could have at any time in the past walked into a planned parenthood. Since you have such strong opinions on what goes on inside of one, when was the last time you were inside a planned parenthood?



Bear with us dude, men have only been able to get pregnant for a few months
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6133 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:08 pm to
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So you deny life to something with a beating heart and a brain?



Unreal that you are so uneducated that you think this is what life is.
This post was edited on 5/3 at 11:32 am


LOL, would love to see what you had to edit out.

You are so educated that you have defined life in a way contrary to nature, I guess? I hope you never plan to procreate.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19211 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Is it living? I don't know, but yeah probably.

Does it die? Then it was living.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48908 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Unreal that you are so uneducated that you think this is what life is.


I’d LOVE to hear your educational credentials.
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