re: Why do churches get so worked up over gays?

difference in a "sinner" being welcome in a church and a "sinner" being in a leadership position in church....

You know that’s not the issue being discussed

Ask the same baker to bake a cake celebrating drug addiction

Ask the florist to decorate a brothel

Kingbob, here you go

Proverbs 23:20f: "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."

Isaiah 5:11f: "Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine. They have harps and lyres at their banquets, tambourines and flutes and wine, but they have no regard for the deeds of the LORD, no respect for the work of his hands."

Galatians 5:19–21: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: ... drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit."

So only landowners got married?

Non-landowners didn't have much of a dowry...

Because nobody I speak with...ever....tries to say alcoholism, drug addiction, murder, lying, theft, greed, envy, etc, are behaviors that should be overlooked and even accepted. Even though one of these sins are committed by most of us at least once a day, Christians do not openly endorse and try to normalize them as acceptable behavior. Homosexuality is a sin. It runs afoul of both natural and divine law.

I know of few churches that “get worked up” over it in this modern age. Well, except for members of Islamic Mosques. My church wants them as much as the drug addict. Church should not be a meeting of the well, but rather a healing place for sinners. All of us.

My dad gave me all the doc savage books when I was a kid, maybe 44 years ago.

Loved those books. Great user name

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There's a lot of non-gays who are cohabitation as well

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Read this wrong. Mea culpa.

I saw a few weeks ago that as of 2017 there were still more gays in a opposite sex marriage than a same sex marriage.

Around 10% of gays get married. Lesbians married get divorced at a higher rates than gay dudes or hetero marriages. No surprise there fellas.

So if currently 3 percent of the population is homosexual and 10 percent of that 3 percent is actually using gay marriage....that is 3 individuals of a thousand in a gay marriage.

This group of 3/1000 and the transgender folks who are about 6/1000 are the combined 9/1000 people at the cutting edge of sexual norms in America.

Those numbers seem small but they add up. And they will likely continue to rise.

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Looks like you do,

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Nah. I’m Christian and not of the liberal variety.

It was just a question. I never claimed to have the answer.

Just seems to me that IF hypothetically, God wanted to write something into the algorithm that is human DNA to ensure the species doesn’t overpopulate, then writing into human DNA a component that would prevent or at least strongly deter a portion of the population from reproducing once population hits a certain critical mass would be one way of doing it.

I never said I believed that speculative theory to be fact.

Unless you’re God, you have no way of knowing with 100% certainty that the theory is false. I’m not God, so I don’t know nor claim to know.

What I do know is that I place more emphasis on biblical passages encouraging people to judge not, lest we be judged than I do those passages relating to homosexuality.

I would hope that my son won’t turn out to be gay, but if he does I’ll still love him.

My point was that with all the nefarious, scandalous and evil things happening all around the world that are objectively far worse than two people of the same gender hooking up, it seems like maybe that stuff should receive more condemnation than something that really doesn’t affect anyone outside of a small demographic.

It’s not that I support it. My take is that it has little effect on me, and I just don’t care all that much relative to what I perceive to be far more important issues.

If gay people all go to hell for all eternity it doesn’t affect me. I’d rather use the time discussing how to feed and educate starving children in developing countries that hear a lecture I’ve already heard a hundred times about how gay = bad when I go to church on Sunday.

You’re playing fast and loose with the assumptions. May want to reevaluate how you interpret what other people say.