re: Why do American Christians support Israel?

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John Hagee's dispensationalist heresy is one of them.

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The 100% literal, six day creation and 6-10k year geneology as described in Genesis is the most intriguing to me. It's an entirely indefensible, easily falsifiable idea held by tens of millions of American christians and virtually completely absent from the rest of the christian world or christian history. Even early Jewish theologians, and virtually all of the early church fathers, read the early parts of Genesis prior to the flood account as partially or entirely symbolic. Mainstream orthodox Jewish thought has ALWAYS been that the creation account is non-literal.

But Jim Bob from small town Alabama thousands of years after the fact has finally figured it out.

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and they consider the evangelicals “dupes”.

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I mean, it's hard to argue otherwise when you compare mainstream evangelical/baptist theology that of high protestantism/catholicism/eastern orthodoxy. From the outside looking in, American evangelical theology is extremely shallow and lacking sound apologetics. It's the Natty Light of christianity, and as much a political ideology as a religious one in many ways.

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I mean, it's hard to argue otherwise when you compare mainstream evangelical/baptist theology that of high protestantism/catholicism/eastern orthodoxy. From the outside looking in, American evangelical theology is extremely shallow and lacking sound apologetics. It's the Natty Light of christianity, and as much a political ideology as a religious one in many ways.

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So the Roman Catholic Church which has tons of church writings, writs, dogmas, papal bulls, encyclicals, etc. many which completely contradict the others, somehow has more theological weight than a group like the Baptist who mostly rely on the Bible alone? Ok.

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The 100% literal, six day creation and 6-10k year geneology as described in Genesis is the most intriguing to me. It's an entirely indefensible, easily falsifiable idea held by tens of millions of American christians and virtually completely absent from the rest of the christian world or christian history. Even early Jewish theologians, and virtually all of the early church fathers, read the early parts of Genesis prior to the flood account as partially or entirely symbolic. Mainstream orthodox Jewish thought has ALWAYS been that the creation account is non-literal.

But Jim Bob from small town Alabama thousands of years after the fact has finally figured it out.

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The problem with modern interpretations of Genesis that aren't depicting a literal 6-day creation is not the interpretation, per se, but the reasons for it. It's usually done to support evolutionary time scales and teachings. Unfortunately, it's not just the age of the earth that has theological issues, but it's the notion of physical death before sin (of man) among other things that impacts theology.

If all that was at stake was just the age of the earth, it probably wouldn't be as contentious of a topic, but the underlying reason why it's even discussed is because of other issues at play, such as attempting to interpret the Bible by scientific understanding of fallible humans rather than by what the scriptures say within their historical contexts as breathed from God, Himself.

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The Jews was not the reason Christ was crucified. Christ was crucified because God willed it. God sent Christ to die on the cross to save us from sin. It was going to happen no matter if the Jews turned Christ over to the Romans or not. You can’t blame the Jews for doing something that God had intended to happen in the first place.

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Exactly. The Bible even says the Jews hearts were hardened for a season specifically so that salvation could also come to the Gentiles.

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The most "certain" types of religious people are almost always those with the most simplistic, shallow theology. There's a clear reason for this.

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Jesus said that unless we had faith like a little child, we wouldn’t even see heaven. So the Gospel need not be complex.

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I think we've found some common ground, at last

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I mean, there are always varying degrees of wrong

It's impossible to objectively watch a learned catholic or orthodox theologian defend their faith, then watch a southern baptist do the same, and come away thinking they are on equal theological footing. Theology slowly ironed out and dissected over thousands of years is always going to appear more refined and sound than a cheap off brand quickly woven together over a couple hundred years.

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God’s chosen people. / thread

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Why would God's chosen people be those who reject Jesus Christ and hate on those who believe in Jesus?

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The Zionists are using the evangelicals. It is manipulative, and they consider the evangelicals “dupes”.

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This imo is the best and truest answer.