
- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Why did Democrats gain Senate seats in 2012 when gas prices…
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:00 pm
…were the highest they’ve ever been at $5.08 (inflation adjusted) compared to $4.14 for today?
We were also right in the middle of GWOT, and unlike this Iran “war”, U.S. Soldiers were coming home in body bags daily.
Not only did the Democrat majority Senate not lose seats, they GAINED 2 seats at that time.
As a society, was our appetite for war in 2012 that much stronger?
Affordability obviously didn’t matter in 2012, why now?
Was it that Americans just couldn’t get enough of the Socialist Barack Obama’s amazing policies like the Affordable Care Act from 2010 or are there just alot more people, not necessarily Americans, voting in our elections now?
We were also right in the middle of GWOT, and unlike this Iran “war”, U.S. Soldiers were coming home in body bags daily.
Not only did the Democrat majority Senate not lose seats, they GAINED 2 seats at that time.
As a society, was our appetite for war in 2012 that much stronger?
Affordability obviously didn’t matter in 2012, why now?
Was it that Americans just couldn’t get enough of the Socialist Barack Obama’s amazing policies like the Affordable Care Act from 2010 or are there just alot more people, not necessarily Americans, voting in our elections now?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:01 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Orange man bad. /thread.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:02 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
The modern under 30 crowd were in grade school then and not yet old enough to vote for commies because high gas prices made them sad.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:04 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Because Obama was on the ballot.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:04 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Trump specifically promised to lower fuel prices and they are higher now than when he took office. He made too many promises and did not deliver.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:06 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Heading into the 2012 U.S. Senate elections, Democrats held a narrow 53–47 majority (including two caucusing Independents) and were widely expected to lose control of the chamber. They were defending 23 seats—many in red or swing states—while Republicans were defending just 10.
Instead, Democrats pulled off a net gain of two seats, expanding their caucus to 55 seats (53 Democrats and 2 caucusing Independents). The pickup came down to a combination of Republican primary missteps, strong Democratic candidate recruitment and presidential coattails, and key seat flips.
Key Reasons Democrats Gained Seats
1. "Self-Inflicted Wounds" in Republican Primaries
In several key states, hard-right Tea Party candidates defeated mainstream Republican incumbents or primary favorites, only to make controversial statements during the general election that alienated moderate voters:
Indiana: Tea Party favorite Richard Mourdock defeated six-term moderate Republican incumbent Richard Lugar in the GOP primary. Mourdock's controversial comments on abortion during a late-stage debate damaged his candidacy, allowing Democrat Joe Donnelly to flip the Republican-held seat.
Missouri: Incumbent Democrat Claire McCaskill was considered one of the most vulnerable senators in the country. However, Republican nominee Todd Akin made infamous comments regarding "legitimate rape" and pregnancy, causing his campaign to collapse and allowing McCaskill to secure a comfortable re-election win.
2. Presidential Coattails & Higher Turnout
Because 2012 was a presidential election year, voter turnout was significantly higher than in the 2010 midterms. President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign drove high turnout among core Democratic groups—young voters, women, and minority communities—which gave down-ballot Senate candidates a strong boost.
3. Key Seat Flips & Independent Alignment
Massachusetts: Consumer advocate and Harvard professor Elizabeth Warren defeated Republican incumbent Scott Brown. Brown had won the seat in a 2010 special election, but Warren ran a high-profile, record-setting fundraising campaign in a state Obama won by 23 points.
Maine: Moderate Republican Senator Olympia Snowe unexpectedly retired, citing partisan gridlock. Independent Angus King won the three-way race to replace her and chose to caucus with the Democrats, effectively adding another seat to their majority.
4. Defense of Red and Swing State Seats
Democrats managed to defend every single one of their open or vulnerable seats in conservative and battleground states:
North Dakota: Democrat Heidi Heitkamp pulled off a major upset in a heavily conservative state, defeating Republican Congressman Rick Berg by less than 1%.
Montana & West Virginia: Democratic incumbents Jon Tester (Montana) and Joe Manchin (West Virginia) successfully won re-election despite Romney easily winning both states at the presidential level.
Open Swing Seats: Democrats held open seats in Virginia (Tim Kaine) and Wisconsin (Tammy Baldwin), while incumbents in Ohio (Sherrod Brown) and Pennsylvania (Bob Casey Jr.) fended off heavily funded Republican challenges.
The Net Result
Democrats only lost one seat during the cycle—Nebraska, where Republican Deb Fischer won the seat vacated by retiring Democrat Ben Nelson. However, by picking up Indiana and Massachusetts and gaining the allegiance of Maine's new Independent senator, Democrats achieved a net 2-seat expansion of their majority.
Instead, Democrats pulled off a net gain of two seats, expanding their caucus to 55 seats (53 Democrats and 2 caucusing Independents). The pickup came down to a combination of Republican primary missteps, strong Democratic candidate recruitment and presidential coattails, and key seat flips.
Key Reasons Democrats Gained Seats
1. "Self-Inflicted Wounds" in Republican Primaries
In several key states, hard-right Tea Party candidates defeated mainstream Republican incumbents or primary favorites, only to make controversial statements during the general election that alienated moderate voters:
Indiana: Tea Party favorite Richard Mourdock defeated six-term moderate Republican incumbent Richard Lugar in the GOP primary. Mourdock's controversial comments on abortion during a late-stage debate damaged his candidacy, allowing Democrat Joe Donnelly to flip the Republican-held seat.
Missouri: Incumbent Democrat Claire McCaskill was considered one of the most vulnerable senators in the country. However, Republican nominee Todd Akin made infamous comments regarding "legitimate rape" and pregnancy, causing his campaign to collapse and allowing McCaskill to secure a comfortable re-election win.
2. Presidential Coattails & Higher Turnout
Because 2012 was a presidential election year, voter turnout was significantly higher than in the 2010 midterms. President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign drove high turnout among core Democratic groups—young voters, women, and minority communities—which gave down-ballot Senate candidates a strong boost.
3. Key Seat Flips & Independent Alignment
Massachusetts: Consumer advocate and Harvard professor Elizabeth Warren defeated Republican incumbent Scott Brown. Brown had won the seat in a 2010 special election, but Warren ran a high-profile, record-setting fundraising campaign in a state Obama won by 23 points.
Maine: Moderate Republican Senator Olympia Snowe unexpectedly retired, citing partisan gridlock. Independent Angus King won the three-way race to replace her and chose to caucus with the Democrats, effectively adding another seat to their majority.
4. Defense of Red and Swing State Seats
Democrats managed to defend every single one of their open or vulnerable seats in conservative and battleground states:
North Dakota: Democrat Heidi Heitkamp pulled off a major upset in a heavily conservative state, defeating Republican Congressman Rick Berg by less than 1%.
Montana & West Virginia: Democratic incumbents Jon Tester (Montana) and Joe Manchin (West Virginia) successfully won re-election despite Romney easily winning both states at the presidential level.
Open Swing Seats: Democrats held open seats in Virginia (Tim Kaine) and Wisconsin (Tammy Baldwin), while incumbents in Ohio (Sherrod Brown) and Pennsylvania (Bob Casey Jr.) fended off heavily funded Republican challenges.
The Net Result
Democrats only lost one seat during the cycle—Nebraska, where Republican Deb Fischer won the seat vacated by retiring Democrat Ben Nelson. However, by picking up Indiana and Massachusetts and gaining the allegiance of Maine's new Independent senator, Democrats achieved a net 2-seat expansion of their majority.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:07 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
You mean right after coming out of the 2008 Great Recession under Bush?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:09 pm to Tigersforthee
quote:
The modern under 30 crowd were in grade school then and not yet old enough to vote for commies because high gas prices made them sad.
Gas prices aren’t even high though. It’s cheaper than 13/16 election cycles.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:13 pm to foghat
quote:
Trump specifically promised to lower fuel prices and they are higher now than when he took office. He made too many promises and did not deliver.
Is ground beef also Trump’s fault or was it the 8 million head of cattle lost during Biden’s malicious over regulation?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:30 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
quote:
Is ground beef also Trump’s fault or was it the 8 million head of cattle lost during Biden’s malicious over regulation?
You people want to blame Biden for everything.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:31 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Trump was elected to right the economic ship and get prices down. He made it worse.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:35 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
Because the MSM propped up Black Jesus.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:37 pm to PorkSammich
quote:
Trump was elected to right the economic ship and get prices down. He made it worse.
Inflation was literally 3x what it is now in 2022.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:38 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
quote:
…were the highest they’ve ever been at $5.08 (inflation adjusted) compared to $4.14 for today?
Obama was one of the worst presidents ever and did unimaginable damage to this country but those gas prices were 100% on George W Bush and his GWOT witch hunt. Trump basically gave us 4 more years of W and no one wants that right now. Not sure why this is so hard for the hardcore poliboarders to wrap their brains around
Posted on 11/6/26 at 5:07 pm to Forever
quote:
Obama was one of the worst presidents ever and did unimaginable damage to this country but those gas prices were 100% on George W Bush and his GWOT witch hunt.
Of which Obama continued for another 8 years through his entire Presidency. Obama was elected in ‘08, are you saying that GWOT invasion in ‘01 effected gas prices in 2012?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 5:29 pm to The_Duke
quote:More like under Clinton, Meeks, Frank, etc. Bush warned 17 times. The dems laughed it off.
You mean right after coming out of the 2008 Great Recession under Bush?
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 11/6/26 at 5:34 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
quote:
Why did Democrats gain Senate seats in 2012 when gas prices…
Don't need to go back that far.
Gasoline hit a national high of over $5/gallon in June of 2022 and you couldn't find a DSA media outlet speaking about it other than maybe a 10 second blurb. Since the Iran war and gas rising over $4/gallon nationwide the DSA media has done nothing but obsess over gas prices.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:16 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
quote:
…were the highest they’ve ever been at $5.08 (inflation adjusted) compared to $4.14 for today?
Mid-2008 average US gas prices hit $4.11 per gallon (which is around $6.33 after adjustment for inflation). In the '08 election, Democrats gained 8 Senate Seats and 21 House Seats. So, gas prices were significantly higher in today's dollars in 2008.
In 2012, Peak average US gas prices actually reached an adjusted amount around $5.22 per gallon. The Democrats gained 2 Senate Seats.
Peak national average gas prices in 2022 reached around $5.71 per gallon (after adjustment for inflation). Democrats gained 1 Senate Seat, Republicans gained 9 House Seats.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:22 pm to Hoyt30FMJ
2012 was a favorable map for Democrats and the GOP nominated some shite candidates. Todd Akin in Missouri and the guys in North Dakota and Montana, for example. Also, Romney was a terrible fit for the Midwest.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:38 pm to foghat
quote:
Why did Democrats gain Senate seats in 2012 when gas prices…
foghat
quote:
Is ground beef also Trump’s fault or was it the 8 million head of cattle lost during Biden’s malicious over regulation?
You people want to blame Biden for everything.
Faghat on here being a libtard TDS nerd as usual.

Popular
Back to top

19








