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re: Why did America fight for independence from England?

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Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:10 pm to
They wouldn't let us use the ladies' outhouse, even when we wore wigs and cullottes..
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Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7525 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

taxation without representation



THIS
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
2971 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:10 pm to


because

they kept saying

them fightin' words


so we fought ...

Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Slavery was abolished in Great Britain in 1833 — over a half-century after the founding of the United States.

Also working completely against Hannah-Jones’ narrative is the fact that almost all the states north of the Mason-Dixon Line had voted to abolish slavery by the end of the Revolutionary War in 1783.

By 1804, all the Northern states had passed legislation ending slavery.

You know I once read an alternative history book where the Nazis developed time travel and went back in time to upgrade the Confederate weapons to help them defeat the Union, so when the Nazis would rise to power, the US would be divided. Maybe we should put that in our textbooks too.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:15 pm to
Apparently this website has banned Disney WiFi. Lol
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:16 pm to
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They wouldn't let us use the ladies' outhouse,


Oooh, that reminds me of a factoid I heard in a lecture from the world's foremost expert on WH outhouses. For the first 90 years of the presidency they used an outhouse.

The most advanced was the '3 size seat'. It was a board covering the hole with small, medium and large for different arse sizes. Toilet paper was not invented. They used paper from magazines or newspapers.
Posted by TigerMuskyFanMinneso
Boonies, MN
Member since Sep 2019
753 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:16 pm to
Three fifty?

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Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:16 pm to
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The New York Times’ 1619 Project — a curriculum that makes the fantastical claim that a primary cause of the Revolutionary War was the colonists’ desire to protect slavery — has been adopted in 3,500 classrooms across all 50 states.

For this reason, some of the nation’s most renowned historians have called for The Times to correct this and other factual errors.

The Pulitzer Center, which is partnering with The Times to promote The 1619 Project, recounted in its 2019 annual report, “Good journalism, innovative educational resources, and deep community engagement are absolutely essential to bridging the divisions that threaten to rip our democracy apart. It is this belief that has driven the Pulitzer Center for the last 14 years.”

Nikole Hannah-Jones, The Times’ lead writer on the project, argued in her introductory essay to it, “The United States is a nation founded on both an ideal and a lie. Our Declaration of Independence, approved on July 4, 1776, proclaims that ‘all men are created equal’ and ‘endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.’

“But the white men who drafted those words did not believe them to be true for the hundreds of thousands of black people in their midst.”

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Hannah-Jones went on to contend “that the year 1619 is as important to the American story as 1776.”

That was the year, she explained, that British colonists in Jamestown purchased 20 to 30 enslaved Africans.

“Conveniently left out of our founding mythology is the fact that one of the primary reasons the colonists decided to declare their independence from Britain was because they wanted to protect the institution of slavery,” Hannah-Jones wrote.

The reporter is honest enough to admit that slavery in America predated the nation’s founding by over 150 years.

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However, she alleges by 1776, Britain “had grown deeply conflicted over its role in the barbaric institution.”

There were calls to abolish slavery, which “would have upended the economy of the colonies, in both the North and the South,” Hannah-Jones wrote.

Slavery was abolished in Great Britain in 1833 — over a half-century after the founding of the United States.

Also working completely against Hannah-Jo
Posted by NoMoreKnees
Pulaski, TN
Member since Jan 2017
313 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:18 pm to
You need to go to Mt. Vernon and see that George Washington has a ice house. When the river froze in the winter they would cut blocks of ice and store them in the ice house and use them in the summer months. Actually made ice cream.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99309 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Another great invention from the state of Missouri.


Missouri used to do a lot of great things. What happened to y'all?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20255 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:20 pm to
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I'm guessing the lefty answer is because England was going to outlaw slavery and those evil colonists wanted to prevent it



Ok, so one has to believe this was part of it BUT the deranged left has to have something even more evil to add into the mix to be accurate these days. I would say the left would claim the Americans were having child sacrifices and the Brits were wanting to stop the practice, BUT considering the left's view of abortion, I'm not so sure they consider that a bad thing...

So maybe it would be something that violates a #metoo tenet...maybe the evil white American males were the only ones wanting the slaves and they were also revolting against sexual harassment laws being passed in England.

Obviously this is bullshite but since the left makes things up all the time, at this point, what difference does it make?
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:20 pm to
We just signed a three star cornerback the other day. So I’d say things are looking pretty good for Missouri.
Posted by Apache
San Diego
Member since Dec 2013
2492 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:20 pm to
Because England is bogus. And if we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto, we'll just be bogus too.'
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99309 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:22 pm to
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We just signed a three star cornerback the other day. So I’d say things are looking pretty good for Missouri.


Progress
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:24 pm to
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You win.


Ok. Let's try to be objective. The British didn't care about slaves, but they did care about the economics of it. Keep in mind that GB and France had already begun their industrial revolution well before the US was a major player.

Outlawing slavery was the end result of the Motherland having better industrial power. They didn't care about what colonies thought.


Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5636 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:26 pm to
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they would cut blocks of ice and store them in the ice house and use them in the summer months. Actually made ice cream.

kinda have a hard time believeing that,must not be much of a spring in NY
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:27 pm to
Kangz & sheit
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

We just signed a three star cornerback the other day. So I’d say things are looking pretty good for Missouri.


That's nice. But ya'll still have ugly uniforms.



That overuse of gold is just too much. And look at those helmets, OMG. Who is your tailor!

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:29 pm to
That yellow is awful. We need to go back to the black and gold with the block Ms.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:30 pm to
The mother was the doctor
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