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re: Why can’t younger leftist understand their policies are destructive long term?

Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:07 am to
I have a lot of intelligent employees who are unfortunately brainwashed at this point. It’s mind boggling. The only hope for change is an asteroid, tidal wave, or nuke.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20009 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:18 am to
Because they don’t understand. Stupid people don’t know they are stupid anymore. It’s really quite amazing.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:20 am to
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Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20009 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:28 am to
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That's a bit much, especially considering all the Leftist economic policies of Trump that were/are defended by his fans.


You are walking talking straw man. Ironically, your answer illustrates the answer to the OPs question. People avoid critical thinking, and settle on the first available answer, regardless if it answers the question actually being asked. Further, People do not listen to others questions before they answer, they are just waiting to talk, and steer the conversation to a place they are comfortable, which usually involves seeking backup (or in your case, finding an answer that you know others will challenge and back up, creating a melee where the argument that focuses on action rather than strategy, ie Internet Rambo Syndrome)
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:31 am to
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See I disagree. That sounds horrible. In a world where there are no poor or no inferior people, then there is nothing to drive humanity or even the individual to strive for betterment.

I’m glad there was a time in my life I was poor. It pushed me to do the things I needed to improve myself so that I could move into a better economic position. It also has made me very appreciative of the things I have earned. Being inferior to others in certain skills made me want to practice those skills to improve to the best of my abilities.
I'm just saying that is a positive, even if not a net positive. I'd consider it positive if everyone agreed with me, but I also recognize that it is better to have competing ideas. Younger people lack the wisdom to see that the "positives" come at the expense of better positives.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:41 am to
I think I got downvoted by an idiot who memorized and "test banked" his way through school.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:43 am to
DING DING DING.....excellent take. Have a good brandy and a Cohiba.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26139 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:44 am to
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Why can’t younger leftist understand their policies are destructive long term?

You answered your own question.

Human nature is conditioned to embrace the here and now, short-term reality. In spite of all this high-and-mighty "concern" about "our grandkids generation", that's not how we're designed to think. Even useful inventions, and innovations, like IT and communication technology, were created to satisfy immediate needs.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:53 am to
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Good luck. Its been infiltrated top to bottom. No institution has been more infiltrated and occupied by marxists than the education system. Would take decades.



John Dewey who was the "sponsor" and character reference for the little cabalists who sought political sanctuary here from their previous ideological playground in Weimar, would later be entrusted to formulate and write the approach this country would take to public education.

As far back as 1916 he offered this gem from his Democracy and Education:

There is always a danger that increased personal independence will decrease the social capacity of an individual.... It often makes an individual so insensitive in his relations to others as to develop an illusion of being really able to stand and act alone———an unnamed form of insanity which is responsible for a large part of the remedial suffering of the world.

From his first ever Humanist Manifesto in 1933, he called for the "synthesizing of all religions" and "a socialized and cooperative economic order."

Later he volunteered as a character reference for Alger Hiss during his trial for espionage.

It's been around and festering for a very long time.

To uproot it would take at a minimum an entire generation of full focus and application.





Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20009 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:10 am to
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Human nature is conditioned to embrace the here and now, short-term reality. In spite of all this high-and-mighty "concern" about "our grandkids generation", that's not how we're designed to think. Even useful inventions, and innovations, like IT and communication technology, were created to satisfy immediate needs.


This is just right leaning poli board groupthink.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4919 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:14 am to
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Because they're young and stupid


Yep but this board proves you don't have to be young to be stupid...just woke and Democrat!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422241 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:50 am to
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You are walking talking straw man.








What did the poster earlier in this thread say? Facts, not feeling?

quote:

People avoid critical thinking, and settle on the first available answer, regardless if it answers the question actually being asked.

I answered his question directly. You just didn't quote it in your response

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68526 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:54 am to
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Ain’t no “like” about it, they are under a spell. My son texted me that another student at his high school offed himself. Then said it was a tranny. Then my naive arse, ask my daughter, ‘they have trannys in high school?’ She said it was rampant. I naively thought there was an outlier here and there, didn’t know there are clusters. This post was edited on 3/17 at 7:48 am



Twice as many kids are trans now.

And I get twice as many could be anything. But my assumption is it wasn’t just 1 and now there are 2.

This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68526 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:56 am to
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I answered his question directly. You just didn't quote it in your response


Appears Obama was fricking us then china released a virus.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:56 am to
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John Dewey


Is highly revered in Education. In fact, I think he was one of the first I learned about in Educational Psychology.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68526 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:59 am to
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You answered your own question. Human nature is conditioned to embrace the here and now, short-term reality. In spite of all this high-and-mighty "concern" about "our grandkids generation", that's not how we're designed to think. Even useful inventions, and innovations, like IT and communication technology, were created to satisfy immediate needs.



Embrace the here and now by making you pay for something from 400 years ago.

Makes perfect sense, or this really isn’t it is it?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21879 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:59 am to
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If it props up a System/Culture that does not hold individuals personally accountable for their "character" (MLK's judgment criteria), the yes, that System will "doom" the society therein.


Empathy is also a human trait. Try it sometime.

And if we're talking biblical quotes, you'd best remember the one about camels and eyes of needles.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:00 pm to
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that's not how we're designed to think


Its precisely how we were designed to think.

Our purpose is to build, create, and pass down to our progeny.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57898 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:01 pm to
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As far back as 1916 he offered this gem from his Democracy and Education: There is always a danger that increased personal independence will decrease the social capacity of an individual.... It often makes an individual so insensitive in his relations to others as to develop an illusion of being really able to stand and act alone———an unnamed form of insanity which is responsible for a large part of the remedial suffering of the world. From his first ever Humanist Manifesto in 1933, he called for the "synthesizing of all religions" and "a socialized and cooperative economic order."



I’ve never heard this before. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20009 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:01 pm to
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I answered his question directly.


Yet here you are supporting your point that you introduced, as a direct response, with pictures and graphs
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