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re: Why can’t younger leftist understand their policies are destructive long term?

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Posted by TigerIron
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:23 am to
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Most doctors just aren't that smart. The field has been taken over by cultures that crave money and positions of power and respect, and that fear being outshone by other members of their group


Almost all jobs/careers including professional have become plug and play. Its all been systemized and anyone with the min knowledge can integrate a system.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:24 am to
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Socialism isn't all bad, it's just that every good thing comes with a vastly disproportionate number of bad things. It's good to have no poor people, no people inferior to others, no one goes hungry or can't afford their medication.


See I disagree. That sounds horrible. In a world where there are no poor or no inferior people, then there is nothing to drive humanity or even the individual to strive for betterment.

I’m glad there was a time in my life I was poor. It pushed me to do the things I needed to improve myself so that I could move into a better economic position. It also has made me very appreciative of the things I have earned. Being inferior to others in certain skills made me want to practice those skills to improve to the best of my abilities.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:29 am to
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It’s time we take back public education.


Good luck. Its been infiltrated top to bottom. No institution has been more infiltrated and occupied by marxists than the education system. Would take decades.
Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:33 am to
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new beachfront property in Georgia.


I’d love some Gulf Front property in GA
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:33 am to
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Go read threads on here about preserving and defending Social Security and Medicare. They defend the theory of redistribution programs in great detail.


You didn’t really answer my question. But to the points you raised. No true conservative agrees that social security should have ever been created. And it’s not really socialism. You are getting the money back that you put in, and only a fraction of it at that. Most conservatives would be fine with just giving me back what I have put in and the disband the whole program.

Now Medicare in its current form is socialism because it is abused and used to try and cover way too many people. But there is nothing wrong in a capitalist system used by a government based on judeo Christian values that has some programs to assist the truly needy people in our society.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:36 am to
Come on Rev, you know how deceptive the evil one can be and that is what is behind this woke movement - Satan pure evil.

First he convinced many that God was everywhere and there wasn't a need to go to church, being "spiritual" was enough. Then he slipped them down the slope from that to worshipping idols (work, screens, popularity, etc,), and now once he removed any true north we are where we are.

This isn't a political battle, it is a spiritual battle.
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:39 am to
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But to answer your question, it's because socialism is a great idea in theory that simply doesn't work in reality, and people always play the "it wasn't real socialism" or "it was implemented incorrectly" cards




Last of Us had a great little quip about communism.

They found a society that was functioning and surviving in the zombie apocalypse, equal work, rotating leadership, no outsiders, and you don't contribute, you're out. One main character joked that it was communism and another character said, "yes, it is."

it's a perfect microcosm of it could work if you stick to it rigidly, didn't have the chance of corruptible leadership, and had 0 tolerance for freeloaders.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:40 am to
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younger leftist


They are blinded by the shiny object of Idealism, Rev. Churchill said that "if you are not a Liberal when young you don't have a heart...and if you are not a Conservative by 40 you don't have a brain".

I don't think the current scenario allows for the timeline of rational maturation, as the consequences of idealist but unrealistic policy hit home.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:42 am to
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See I disagree. That sounds horrible. In a world where there are no poor or no inferior people, then there is nothing to drive humanity or even the individual to strive for betterment.


Equality is an unnatural state of being.

Our value is only equal to what we make it.

The fascination with "equality of outcomes" is fricking retarded and is an easy filter for insanity.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:45 am to
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Come on Rev, you know how deceptive the evil one can be and that is what is behind this woke movement - Satan pure evil. First he convinced many that God was everywhere and there wasn't a need to go to church, being "spiritual" was enough. Then he slipped them down the slope from that to worshipping idols (work, screens, popularity, etc,), and now once he removed any true north we are where we are. This isn't a political battle, it is a spiritual battle.



Believe me, I blame Christians a great deal for our current situation
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:50 am to
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Believe me, I blame Christians a great deal for our current situation



Very true, Rev. Vision is a hard thing to acquire, when our human nature stands in the way. Can't see the forest for the trees. We will, it'll come "in the clouds"; nuclear clouds most likely.



Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:51 am to
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it'll come "in the clouds"; nuclear clouds most likely.



Nice scripture word association!
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Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:53 am to
Has Social Security doomed society? Medicare? The Interstate Highway System? The military?

Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:55 am to
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Has Social Security doomed society? Medicare? T



Probably will
Posted by frequent flyer
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:57 am to
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Posted by OGtigerfan87
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:57 am to
Probably the same reason why middle aged right wing extremists can’t understand that their policies/rhetoric is not palatable to anybody who isn’t as ideologically pure as they are. Both are partisan extremists who waved bye bye to common sense a long time ago. It’s as simple as not being capable of seeing past your own perspective and hyper partisan bias mostly because they are emotionally and intellectually immature and gullible
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Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:59 am to
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Has Social Security doomed society? Medicare? The Interstate Highway System? The military?



If it props up a System/Culture that does not hold individuals personally accountable for their "character" (MLK's judgment criteria), the yes, that System will "doom" the society therein.

There is a reason that both Evolutionary Principle and God Principle require relative PERSONAL accountability and consequences for survival and prosperity. Egalitarianism which nullifies this principle is suicidal.

"Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto Man, but the end thereof is destruction".
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:02 am to
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Probably the same reason why middle aged right wing extremists can’t understand that their policies/rhetoric is not palatable to anybody who isn’t as ideologically pure as they are.



Right wing extremism wouldn’t harm society at the same level as left wing extremism.
And we’d probably disagree on what right wing extremism is.
Posted by Beardlington
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:05 am to
they're no longer taught to think critically, they're taught that how someone FEELS trumps all other points made or unmade
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