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re: Why can’t we be allies with Russia??

Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52024 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:51 pm to
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If we can be close allies with Japan (Democracy), England (Democracy), Germany (Democracy), Italy (Democracy), etc etc, why can’t we with Russia (Not a Democracy) by now?


Can you see a pattern?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25072 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:54 pm to
National Socialists and International Communists are two horns on the same totalitarian goat.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:34 pm to
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Mostly unfettered access to the internet and the advent/unrestrained growth of social media.

It has left western society superficial, vapid, and untethered from its roots.


I agree
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Can you see a pattern?


Western states are oligarchies.

Russia is as well, but the state has more power relative to the oligarchs, compared to the US. Putin can and does tell the oligarchs no.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:43 pm to
we are and will be more in the future,it`s all a created scenario,to keep the MIC machine rolling we must have enemies and an existing threat
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17627 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:48 pm to
The MIC needs fodder. Remember, Ike warned us about the MIC!!

But I agree it would be a great way to live in the world with Russia as our partner.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16539 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:50 am to
Not sure of what you are trying to say.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16539 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:53 am to
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No one can see inside his head, but he goes to service every Sunday.


No he doesn't.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18131 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 6:31 am to
But muh democracy. We only befriend democracy friendly countries like Iran. We point and sneer at Russia for corrupt government...while Iran be imprisoning women for showing their hair.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
762 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 6:50 am to
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They have their problems, and many of the same problems we have, but their culture is in better shape than ours, which was shocking to me. How can that be true after 79 years of Soviet rule. And what happened to us?


It's unbelievable the stupid shite some of you come up with.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85731 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:08 am to
Everything you say about Russia is due to them being under communism for so long. That’s what it does to you.

And we are still friends with countries who don’t share the same culture as us.



Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35845 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:35 am to
Russia is a mafia run gas station with probably the lowest standard of living in the west. A lower life expectancy than just about any country outside of Africa. Internal infrastructure sucks.Outside of Moscow and St.Petersburg most of Russia is barely second world.

Culturally, Russia has about a 6% church attendance rate. High levels of poverty a declining birth rate and a high abortion rate that makes ours seem conservative by comparison. The corruption in day to day life is almost cartoonist. In the US if you want to start a business you can with minimal interference overall. In Russia if you want to start a business first pay off the state and then payoff the oligarchs and mafia......then you can be "partners". Good luck at obtaining any real ownership of land.

US is not perfect, no place is, but this love for Russia and Putin borders on the idiotic.It is the talk of fools.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:44 am to
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Why can’t we be allies with Russia??

Always have to have a foil to enact your stupid globalist policies. Putin is currently that cartoon.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4471 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:50 am to
Because we have become the “bad guys”
On the world stage, the Global Bullies controlled by the Banking Cartel & believe it or not, Russia is against the people That run our country.

We are totally fricked!
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:53 am to
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Russia is against the people That run our country.

And also against anyone who opposes Putin. We may be the bad guys, but Putin isn't the good guy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465820 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:54 am to
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Why can’t we be allies with Russia?

Russia doesn't have allies in the true sense of the word.

quote:

I’d still think we have much more in common with them than they do with Iran, China, N. Korea, etc.

You need to think about that lol.

Russia is an authoritarian dictatorship who is friends with other authoritarian regimes, for various reasons. They have a lot more in common than free, western liberal democratic nations
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:56 am to
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than free, western liberal democratic nations


Lol.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465820 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:58 am to
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Russia is potentially our closest ally

Wut
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:00 am to
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Wut

Saudi Arabia says hi.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465820 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:04 am to
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It is true that Putin has abandoned appealing to liberals, but it's wrong to call him a conservative. He has firmly rejected classical liberalism. He makes overtures to cultural conservativism to try and control and pacify the masses. It's all an act. He's not religious, not married, and doesn't have a family iirc.



Putin is former KGB and had years of hardcore vetting in a Communist state. People who think he's sincere about being religious likely also think strippers really do like them, too.
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