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re: Why can’t the Saudis kill someone somewhere other than their own consulate?

Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:20 pm to
" Those are the facts "

So you dont know anymore than the other guy.

This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:59 pm to
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So you dont know anymore than the other guy. 

I know that if I have video of a man jumping out of a plane without a parachute I dont need to see his body hit the ground to know what happened next.

Maybe you can explain why the Saudis havent proved their innocence? I know they are not obligated to but such a thing would be extraordinary easy. The entire interior of that place has video surveillance. If he left, show the world he left. By not showing the proof you would have to argue that an innocent country wants the world to believe they assassinated a journalist.

Yeah, that makes more sense.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 4:53 pm to
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I know that if I have video of a man jumping out of a plane without a parachute I dont need to see his body hit the ground to know what happened next.




Luke jumped from a plane no parachute at 25k feet. Walked away.



Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:01 pm to
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Luke jumped from a plane no parachute at 25k feet. Walked away. 

The analogy went right over your head apparently.

Do you believe the Saudis, assuming they are innocent, want to convince the world they mudered a journalist? That is where your logic leads us. Yes or no?
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:02 pm to
No I just disagree with it.
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:04 pm to
See above for edit
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:07 pm to
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Do you believe the Saudis, assuming they are innocent, want to convince the world they mudered a journalist?


If they are indeed innocent as your premise suggest why would I assume they either need or want to convince anyone.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:07 pm to
This guy was a spy and his hijab'd fiancee is clearly anti Trump.

Hope he rots
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:09 pm to
His GF is radically anti Trump
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:15 pm to
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His GF is radically anti Trump


I assume most of Muslim Brotherhood is.
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:16 pm to
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If they are indeed innocent as your premise suggest why would I assume they either need or want to convince anyone.

If they are innocent, why would they want to avoid world condemnation and outrage? That's your question?

I have a better one. If they didnt kill him, all they would need to do is produce the security cam footage of him leaving. It would take all but a few minutes of their time to find and produce. The only reason they haven't, assuming they are innocent, is that they WANT to convince the world they killed him. Why would they want that?

How utterly fricking stupid and obsurd.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:56 pm to
I can’t form an opinion on this until IB comments
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Nothing to do with it. A guy walking into a Embassy and not walking out is a little obvious and was the point.


The hell it doesn't. For starters, even if there is 100% incontrovertible evidence that he didn't walk out, there can be no investigation of the crime scene. They can chop the body up into pieces and carry it out in diplomatic bags, and there's not one damn thing authorities can do about it.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 6:29 pm to
Doing it this way sends the ultimate message to any journalist looking to frick with them
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Saudis


They should have called Hillary on this one. Killing him at the consulate was bad form.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 6:36 pm to
I think his fiancé, standing outside, waiting, for hours sends a message.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:19 pm to
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But why do it in their own building in a country that they are at odds with?

And why fly their "hit team" so obviously into Turkey?

I think their is a lot more to this story.

It's just their way of doing things. It's like an alpha male sorta pissing on his territory then killing the invader thing.

I dunno how to describe the way they think. It's been that way forever over there. We used to all carry these big frick off choppers on our LBEs for show more than anything. I carried a Busse Battle Mistress, a lot of us did but some carried Swamp Rat Battle Rats and the like. They respected the steel even if they knew we would just as soon kill'em all kinds of other ways if they fricked with us.

They just have this thing for steel. Goes back to Damascus Steel I guess ... it's holy to them. The steel keeps the spirits of everyone it kills.

They're not afraid of bullets. They're not afraid of bombs. But they do respect the steel.

They don't really chop heads off per se. They have this methodology, this ritual, where they incapacitate you ... let you know that you don't stand a chance and that you are about to me murdered in the most cold blooded fashion. If they think you have information they may torture you for awhile with electric shock or by throwing a beating about your head and nuts. But you know they're going to get around to butchering you alive.

They'll say this prayer, this death prayer, then then insert the knife behind your larynics (sp) until it is all the way through then then pop it out frontwards ... then they pull your head back and cut through muscle down to thr spine ... you're still alive gurgling blood and trying to breath but bkeeding out ... then they severe the spinal cord and cut your head off.

That's just the way they do it.

Now, I had some of thr guys I work with who got all inked-up with crucifixes and Jesus tatts and stuff .... because if they took you and you were painted like that it freaked-em out. They would kill you quick.

Regardless of what the press claims ... you kill them and throw them in with pigs, they're terrified of that. Problem is that there are no pigs over there and you don't wanna try to bring one in. So if you caught one you would bring out goat or sheep guts and tell them it was pig guts you bad flown in. But they got wise to that because of our fricked up press.

When we used to go in to Turkey to train the good guys, they all had these Gurkha knives ... well, at least their NCOs did. Officers carried Yatagans, which is more like a short sword. Anyways, they had this rule whereas if they drew their steel they had to draw blood. So we would go around asking them to see their steel and they would have to cut the tips of their fingers to draw blood.

By the time we left they all had bandaids on the tips of all of their fingers. I dunno ... it was funny to us at the time.

Arabs, Egyptians, Turks, Persians even ... and their damn steel. Iraquis not so much although Sadam's people were kinda into it.

Honestly they just are, for the most part, murderous blood thirsty savages. Even the women will cut you. The kids will cut you.

They're over here now ... so just remember this lesson. It'll happen here eventually. They've been training the Mexican Cartel too - in the art of PsyOps warfare against civilian targets.

Russia and China long ago learned to fight fire with fire ... but our press will never let us get away with it to the level those two powers get away with it. It would behoove us though, to do it rather than relying on paying others to do it for us.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17067 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:23 pm to
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His girlfriend dropped him off, saw him go in, waited and never saw him exit


Yo sparky, according to her, she is his fiance, and his parents have never heard of her. She said he went in side...there is this woman Ford who also says a lot of stuff.....

Wanna try again on the facts???? Any surveillance video from the cameras that ARE NOT in the compound, that saw him walk in????

Thats what I thought, stop using msm banter "as facts".
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17067 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:28 pm to
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Maybe you can explain why the Saudis havent proved their innocence?


How can you prove something didnt happen....that didnt happen? Ya kinda gotta prove it did and there have been no videos, no audio of this mysterious apple phone wired to some outside phone with hookup to a cloud server, no doubt monitored by James Bond.

Just a lot of rhetoric from the post and NPR, and a few loons.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1467 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:28 pm to
What I can’t understand is why does it take 15 guys to kill one journalist?
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