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Why can’t the Saudis kill someone somewhere other than their own consulate?
Posted on 10/14/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/14/18 at 12:47 pm
Why not take care of him outside the embassy with a bullet to the back of the head and no cameras? Or basically anywhere else he is in the world? Why in their own embassy?
Why would someone framing the saudis do it anywhere else?
But that would basically imply the Saudis don’t have control over their own consulate.
One thing I believe I know for sure. 15 brown guys went in there and are probably responsible for him likely being dead. I don’t know who those brown guys are. I don’t know how the people telling me who they are know who they are. There seems to be audio that shouldn’t be able to be possible.
All of this is to say I don’t know what’s going on but there are clear signs of hoodwinking going on.
Why would someone framing the saudis do it anywhere else?
But that would basically imply the Saudis don’t have control over their own consulate.
One thing I believe I know for sure. 15 brown guys went in there and are probably responsible for him likely being dead. I don’t know who those brown guys are. I don’t know how the people telling me who they are know who they are. There seems to be audio that shouldn’t be able to be possible.
All of this is to say I don’t know what’s going on but there are clear signs of hoodwinking going on.
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:07 pm to Stacked
Bin Laden ordered the hit. He’s still alive and well.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:15 pm to SelaTiger
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Bin Laden ordered the hit. He’s still alive and well.
Thats what they want you to think. Actually, Dick Cheney did it with a drone and a joy stick.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:24 pm to Stacked
Arabs are funny about how they murder someone. Bullets ain’t cool. They have this thing about steel ... they like cutting people up, beheading, dismembering, etc. I’m being serious.
They’re actually more afraid of the steel than they are bullets.
They’re actually more afraid of the steel than they are bullets.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:30 pm to Stacked
Who says they killed anyone in their Embassy? Erdogan? Please the guy is one of the biggest shite stirrers in the ME.
Oh, I forgot, this guy is a journalist. Forgive me if I dont fall in line with the MSM wailing and teeth gnashing.
Oh, I forgot, this guy is a journalist. Forgive me if I dont fall in line with the MSM wailing and teeth gnashing.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:31 pm to scrooster
But why do it in their own building in a country that they are at odds with?
And why fly their "hit team" so obviously into Turkey?
I think their is a lot more to this story.
And why fly their "hit team" so obviously into Turkey?
I think their is a lot more to this story.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:50 pm to OchoDedos
It’s clear that they did it.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:54 pm to Lima Whiskey
Is there any evidence besides Dr Ford's testimony that the KSA killed him?
Posted on 10/14/18 at 1:56 pm to Stacked
It could be a case of severe chutzpah.
The Saudis could have suspected he may be under surveillance and couldnt affort taking action on foreign soil. They needed him in a controlled environment where they could extract information (torture), kill and then dispose the body. He would never agree to go to Saudi on his on volition but a consulate in Turkey?
In the consolate they have absolute control of crime scene access since it is technically on Saudi soil. They dont care if he was last seen going into the building or that people suspect them. They are a top 10 trading partner to the US and Turkey is a NATO partner. As long as there is no body or anything that could prove too embarrassing to the royal family like a video of thier goons kidnapping or murdering a reporter, they can live with suspicions because they otherwise have no fear of any political consequences.
What they didnt plan on and what should be a given, embassies and consulates are often bugged. The fact that Turkey is willing to lay their cards on the table like that is interesting. Or it could possibly be the US.
If its Turkey then they feel pursuing Saudi in this fashion is more valuable to their interests, but to what end? And will the US pressure them to keep it under wraps as leverage?
If its the US that bugged the consulate, then its all about leverage at this point.
The Saudis could have suspected he may be under surveillance and couldnt affort taking action on foreign soil. They needed him in a controlled environment where they could extract information (torture), kill and then dispose the body. He would never agree to go to Saudi on his on volition but a consulate in Turkey?
In the consolate they have absolute control of crime scene access since it is technically on Saudi soil. They dont care if he was last seen going into the building or that people suspect them. They are a top 10 trading partner to the US and Turkey is a NATO partner. As long as there is no body or anything that could prove too embarrassing to the royal family like a video of thier goons kidnapping or murdering a reporter, they can live with suspicions because they otherwise have no fear of any political consequences.
What they didnt plan on and what should be a given, embassies and consulates are often bugged. The fact that Turkey is willing to lay their cards on the table like that is interesting. Or it could possibly be the US.
If its Turkey then they feel pursuing Saudi in this fashion is more valuable to their interests, but to what end? And will the US pressure them to keep it under wraps as leverage?
If its the US that bugged the consulate, then its all about leverage at this point.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
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It’s clear that they did it.
How do you know? Seriously?
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:21 pm to OchoDedos
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How do you know? Seriously?
His girlfriend dropped him off, saw him go in, waited and never saw him exit.
24 hr surveillance around the compound saw him enter and never leave.
15 members of a known Saudi goon squad traveled into Turkey to the consulate and were seen arriving earlier that day.
Those are the facts.
The consulate has extensive video surveillance inside. If they were innocent, it would be easy to turn over the video of him leaving the building and the property. If he was still in the building alive, they would know it and are lying about it. In any regard, if the Saudis are an innocence party. It would be laughably easy to clear this up.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:23 pm to McChowder
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His girlfriend dropped him off, saw him go in, waited and never saw him exit.
Maybe that was his plan and hes with MBS hareem at the Ritz
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:28 pm to OchoDedos
The very specific nature of the leaked story, the fact they were published in the Post versus other papers, the CIA frequently leaks to them, knowledge of how the Saudis operate, and finally, the way the Turks are talking about it. The clearly know exactly what happened. They wouldn’t frame the Saudis, what’s the point, and how. They also wouldn’t speak with this level of certainty if they didn’t know what happened.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:33 pm to Lima Whiskey
I'm still very perplexed why we (the USA) care.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:38 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
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I'm still very perplexed why we (the USA) care.
probably because we have punished other countries for it and politically have no choice but to respond
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:40 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
The press is all over it cause they are blaming DJT for it.
You see he has been mean and called the press names and called them fake news. This gave countries all over the globe license to kill members of their press.
Because of Trump.
You see he has been mean and called the press names and called them fake news. This gave countries all over the globe license to kill members of their press.
Because of Trump.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 2:45 pm to goatmilker
Well in the case of the KSA, you could argue that MBS's foreign policy is determined by US protection. His blockade of Qatar didn't work, his kidnapping of the Lebanese PM didn't work, and he suffered no consequences. He could be emboldened by his close relationship with Kushner, but MBS has been a spectacular failure in his foreign policy, and hasn't reformed very much internally.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:02 pm to Dale51
quote:shite, bruh...
Thats what they want you to think. Actually, Dick Cheney did it with a drone and a joy stick.
You know Cheney's style...
Would have been point blank in the face with a 12 gauge.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:05 pm to Stacked
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Why in their own embassy?
Do you understand the concept of diplomatic immunity?
Posted on 10/14/18 at 3:07 pm to BamaGradinTn
Nothing to do with it. A guy walking into a Embassy and not walking out is a little obvious and was the point.
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