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re: Why Can’t People Learn To Accept Permanent U.S. War In The Middle East?

Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
The Iranian wouldn’t give a nuke to one of their proxies. Iran having a nuke would actually have a stabilizing affect on the region IMO.

I still think we s should jump on this opportunity for regime change though.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7909 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
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I don’t really care if Iran gets nukes. Honestly I think the region becomes more stable with a nuclear armed Iran.

I'll disagree with you on that.
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I do however think that the Iranian regime is at its weakest point ever right now and that we should take this opportunity for regime change because a friendly Iran is the most favorable scenario.

But agree with you on that.

I do hope we have a chance to have friendly relations with Iran again.
Posted by DJDwrites
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:01 pm to
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Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:02 pm to
Bc flyby bombings is not war

Like drive by shootings, just shoot up a house and only the child gets killed. Rinse and repeat.

Diplomacy is something this admin is incapable of, so bomb and run is easier.

Obliterated? Not yet, tbd
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:19 pm to
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You can go do some research, read the records.


You have conceded and I accept your surrender.

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Because they already have nukes


Thanks for validating why Iran should definitely be pursuing nukes.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5520 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:23 pm to
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I don't know, why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes


Any country that would use them should not have them...frick...wait a minute
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5520 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Diplomacy is something this admin is incapable of, so bomb and run is easier


Wait...is Obama back in office?

Or maybe Bush

Or maybe Clinton

Shite, we farked
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5520 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:25 pm to
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I do hope we have a chance to have friendly relations with Iran again


We would need to stop overthrowing their governments for that to happen
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
993 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:25 pm to
I have no desire to reply to any of the very nuanced comments in this thread, so I will just respond to the OP. Out of the dozens of ‘good’ reasons that have been given as to why we should attack (not go to war, because using warlike tactics and saying it is a war are actually different things, or so I’m told) Iran, the continual drumbeat of nuclear weapons reason should be retired for a while.

To say that they are weeks or months away from a nuclear weapon for 20+ years and use that as a premise to keep bombing them has to eventually resonate with rational minds. If our intelligence says they are not close to having them and do not have them, then why do we have to use this as the excuse? Is it because Iran’s largest enemy says the opposite? Concerning that, the most recent time (last year) they said this, the administration said the threat was ended. Is Iran somehow this incredible super-power that can just rebound in a few months and once again become the greatest nuclear threat in the ME?

Why not just say we want a different regime because the current one is bad and call it a day, (or one among a laundry list of other reasons)?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:30 pm to
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they should give up nukes and/or nuke ambitions just like Ukraine did and suffer the same fate.


Who exactly do you think is going to invade Iran?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:32 pm to
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Any country that is not the United States that would use them should not have them


FIFY.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5520 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:32 pm to
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FIFY


Are we the baddies?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:34 pm to
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We created problems so we can fix them and keep the Military Industrial Complex well-fed.


Anybody who really believes this is a moron.

No offense.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7909 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:35 pm to
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You have conceded and I accept your surrender.

I've posted a detailed summary in the past with sources of the Budapest Accords, including from US, Russian, and Ukrainian negotiators.

You can go look it up, or stay ignorant.

That's up to you.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:37 pm to
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Are we the baddies?


Nope.

Not even close.

And that's what the Hate America crowd doesn't get.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82322 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:39 pm to

We are dealing with a part of the world dominated by a religion that sanctions slavery, blesses violence, subjugation, conquest, and encourages self-destruction in the name of glory.

There is not much hope in bringing peace to a people whose ethos is opposite of peace.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Iran having a nuke would actually have a stabilizing affect on the region IMO.


That might be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen here.

If Iran ever gets a functioning nuke it will be launched at Israel within 24 hours of acquisition, with Israel's counterstrike happening within seconds or minutes after that.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:51 pm to
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We are dealing with a part of the world dominated by a religion that sanctions slavery, blesses violence, subjugation, conquest, and encourages self-destruction in the name of glory.


And whose biggest goal in life is to eradicate Israel.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5520 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:54 pm to
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And that's what the Hate America crowd doesn't get


Funny

Realizing the bad one's nation does =/= hating that nation.

Call it self-reflection.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11194 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:09 pm to
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If it happens, there will be a coalition of supporting nations.


Let them handle it.
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