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re: Why Can’t People Learn To Accept Permanent U.S. War In The Middle East?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:44 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:44 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Depends what you mean by “war”
I was in the military and did HUMINT and deployed to to Iraq at 19 with the 101st and to Afghanistan at 21 with JSOC before I got out.
I say all that to be able to tell you that we are are war in the Middle East literally every day depending on your definition. The CIA with special forces support do operations in Syria on a near daily basis. We are usually bombing somewhere in Yemen most days to ensure global shipping lanes. My wife’s brother is in centcom so I’m pretty aware of their scope operations so yes you could say we are conducting war all over the Middle East daily.
If your only definition of war is a full scale invasion of a place with the full might of our conventional forces, then no we aren’t, and we aren’t going to be in Iran either
I was in the military and did HUMINT and deployed to to Iraq at 19 with the 101st and to Afghanistan at 21 with JSOC before I got out.
I say all that to be able to tell you that we are are war in the Middle East literally every day depending on your definition. The CIA with special forces support do operations in Syria on a near daily basis. We are usually bombing somewhere in Yemen most days to ensure global shipping lanes. My wife’s brother is in centcom so I’m pretty aware of their scope operations so yes you could say we are conducting war all over the Middle East daily.
If your only definition of war is a full scale invasion of a place with the full might of our conventional forces, then no we aren’t, and we aren’t going to be in Iran either
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:49 pm to Narax
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Ukraine would have been invaded within weeks had they refused to give up their nukes.
So you're just going to make up stuff now? That is just a lie and you dont know shite.
If its thats easy, why won't anyone invade north Korea or Pakistan (who doesnt recognize israel by the way) and take their nukes?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:51 pm to Toomer Deplorable
You put out small fires when they pop up so you don't have a forrest fire later. WW1 and WW2 happened 20 years apart. There hasn't been one since.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:52 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Iran is eating the babies! They're doing voodoo rituals to bring people back from the dead! They're not paying taxes! They've invited a galaxy faring civilization to invade earth! They've divided by zero!
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:53 pm to Toomer Deplorable
It's past time to eliminate the ayatollah and the mullahs. I hope there's a plan in place to put someone strong in that place to transition in the case we actually accomplish this. We don't want all of the jihadis to come to Iran after they're gone to fight like they did in Iraq.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:54 pm to Toomer Deplorable
so if trump doesnt start a permanent war in the middle east are you going to come here and apologize, or just make another post crying about something else?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:55 pm to Narax
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why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes
Israel, Russia, Turkey, and a bunch of warmongers have nukes. Theres a damn good reason they arent being used.
Plus we've heard the "theyve got nukes" line before.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:56 pm to andwesway
I agree the regime needs to go.
It’s not fit for purpose in the year 2026 in a world that’s changed, and that’s to say it is ruthlessly oppressive and undoubtedly the worlds largest potential untapped market if integrated into the west under new leadership.
Our record at regime change working out in what we’d consider our favor since the late 70s is only like 26% success rate though. I got bored and did the math the other day thinking about this so whatever we do it must be done with extreme care and thought
It’s not fit for purpose in the year 2026 in a world that’s changed, and that’s to say it is ruthlessly oppressive and undoubtedly the worlds largest potential untapped market if integrated into the west under new leadership.
Our record at regime change working out in what we’d consider our favor since the late 70s is only like 26% success rate though. I got bored and did the math the other day thinking about this so whatever we do it must be done with extreme care and thought
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:57 pm to sgallo3
The issue with Iran in particular is its proxies who aren’t nation states. It is not in any way ever going to be acceptable for them to be a nuclear power because they could hand one of to them who aren’t accountable the way nations are
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:58 pm to Narax
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I don't know, why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes.
Why can't you accept that another country, in that region of the planet, should be acting on that and not the US (World Police)
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:59 pm to td01241
I agree but im pretty sure bombing the shite out of them isnt gonna make them stop trying to create nukes. If anything it will make them try harder so that they have a chance of fighting back.
Destroying them will just make sure they already fulfilled their end of mutually assured destruction.
Destroying them will just make sure they already fulfilled their end of mutually assured destruction.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:03 pm to sgallo3
This is just my opinion but I don’t believe some massive air campaign is coming. I could 100% be wrong and it definitely could happen but I believe they’re content to play the long game on Iran while using Mossad and our intel assets to ensure the don’t become nuclear, which is pretty ruthless because of the suffering the Persian people will endure, but if you just continue to strangle them economically and apply the most extreme non kinetic pressure you can + the ayatollah will be dead before too long.
This is their play imo. But again could be dead wrong.
This is their play imo. But again could be dead wrong.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:04 pm to td01241
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Our record at regime change working out in what we’d consider our favor since the late 70s is only like 26% success rate though. I g
Now do the success rate of US backed regime change in the Middle East. Zero point zero.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:05 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Why can’t you accept that the ‘cradle of civilization’ devolved into mostly warring, medieval, backward tribes?…
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:07 pm to Bunkie7672
I’d say it’s actually negative in the Middle East not even a 0 
Regime changing Gadaffi was such a horrible idea that it’s count as minus 2 since he was about as pro western as modern day Saudi at that point in his life when we decided his ticket was up.
Thanks Hilary
Regime changing Gadaffi was such a horrible idea that it’s count as minus 2 since he was about as pro western as modern day Saudi at that point in his life when we decided his ticket was up.
Thanks Hilary
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:38 pm to Narax
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I don't know, why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes.
I don’t really care if Iran gets nukes. Honestly I think the region becomes more stable with a nuclear armed Iran.
I do however think that the Iranian regime is at its weakest point ever right now and that we should take this opportunity for regime change because a friendly Iran is the most favorable scenario.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:49 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Trump will do what he’s told just like every other president
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:53 pm to Boodis Man
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So you're just going to make up stuff now? That is just a lie and you dont know shite.
*Sigh*
You can go do some research, read the records.
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If its thats easy, why won't anyone invade north Korea or Pakistan (who doesnt recognize israel by the way) and take their nukes?
Because they already have nukes.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:54 pm to td01241
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The issue with Iran in particular is its proxies who aren’t nation states. It is not in any way ever going to be acceptable for them to be a nuclear power because they could hand one of to them who aren’t accountable the way nations are
Yup, exactly, it's how they operate.
Supply weapons and then deny.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:55 pm to Cuz413
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Why can't you accept that another country, in that region of the planet, should be acting on that and not the US (World Police)
If it happens, there will be a coalition of supporting nations.
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