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re: Why aren’t wages rising rapidly if there are 6 million job openings?

Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11829 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:15 pm to
It’s not an instant effect. It has a lag. Market is always trying to see an equilibrium.

Employers give raises yearly not monthly based on market trends. So actual raises and when they report to collection agencies lags actual market trends. Those getting higher may be seeing increases but drowned out by whole labor pool.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:16 pm to
What makes you think they arent rising
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39275 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:17 pm to
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Employers are hiring underqualified employees and spending the money to train them.

They certainly aren't doing this in Baton Rouge.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25778 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:19 pm to
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They certainly aren't doing this in Baton Rouge.


Ok?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31077 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:21 pm to
some shite like price elasticity of demand causing wages to rise once demand makes it worth paying more for.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53875 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:14 pm to
Increase in jumber of jobs doesnt mean wages go up it just means you can get off tour dead arse and go to work.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14816 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Check the wages in Midland Texas. Truck drivers $150K. Sonic $20 per hour. ect.


The company I work for has a facility in Texas (not Midland, though). They have been getting really busy and are having a hard time finding workers to meet their demands. They are trying to poach our experienced technicians and offering them significant pay increases. We’ve already lost one guy who is making the move.

I know skilled labor with experience is in a good position right now. Opportunities are opening up.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:49 pm to
There is no hiring whatsoever in Madison, Hinds and Rankin counties - the most affluent - in Mississippi.

We dying up here.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

fox fake news



Oh look, another fricking dolt

Perhaps the available "talent" doesn't match the jobs.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9525 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:53 pm to
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hmmm it might be because businesses did exactly what they said they would do with the windfalls from ole Donald's tax plan 


Are you capable of having an intelligent discussion without bringing Trump into it?

Realizing the foundation of your theory is wrong. Economists have been expecting rising wages since before the tax cut was put into place.

Get your head out of your arse and learn something new.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261680 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 pm to
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hmmm it might be because businesses did exactly what they said they would do with the windfalls from ole Donald's tax plan


You got links?

Downward pressure on wages by cheap foreign labor in the US is the answer.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67213 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
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Employers are hiring underqualified employees and spending the money to train them.

They certainly aren't doing this in Baton Rouge.


That's because Louisiana, unlike the rest of the country, is actually in the midst of a crippling recession. Our GDP has shrunk 2 consecutive years and we're still shedding jobs.
Posted by DawgHorns
Member since Dec 2017
277 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
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hmmm it might be because businesses did exactly what they said they would do with the windfalls from ole Donald's tax plan

Owners and corporations took their tax cuts and used them for stock buybacks instead of investing in workforce.

the one time bonuses and small raises splattered to people got across this country amounted to dick compared to what corporations received in tax welfare.

Look, I'm not conservative. No one on this board would consider me conservative. But just think about how dumb the term "tax welfare" is. Think. Its a purely political phrase that manages to be even more idiotic than welfare queen. Having the government lower taxes is not a form of welfare for corporations. The government deciding not to take the money is not the same as the government giving them money because the businesses still had to earn that money themselves.

I don't like Trump, but the tax plan still has helped the economy. Maybe wages aren't rising as fast as you would like (they're still rising), but the benefit of 6 million open jobs is kids graduating college actually have options now. Instead of going to live with the parents for four more years, they can pursue a real career and have independence as adults.

The worst part of the left nowadays (outside of the communists) is the idea that we should create immense taxes targeting businesses to create huge welfare programs. Because then you will get mad at the same businesses when there are less/no job openings. Calling it greed when its really just bad economics.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:00 pm to
The labor market has tightened, as evidenced by headline employment and (albeit sluggish) wage growth.

But we are still sitting near 1970s-level participation rates, which is also sluggishly improving. That means there are likely a significant number of people returning to the work force that we need to churn through before the labor market is truly as tight as it’s been during historical periods of rapid wage growth.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9525 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:06 pm to
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DawgHorns


Libs, take note. This is how an intelligent lib or democrat speaks.
Posted by Shenanigans
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Nov 2012
2394 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:07 pm to
Are you sure we don’t need to get you fitted for a coat?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28157 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Check the wages in Midland Texas. Truck drivers $150K. Sonic $20 per hour. ect.


Ever been to Midland,Tx. ?

Not saying that it's awful,but It's not a place I would think about living long term.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:10 am to
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At that point, we will be able to pay our laborers more


Able to but they won't necessarily get a significant increase
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