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re: Why are we afraid of Democratic Socialism?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:23 am to DimTigerDontHate
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:23 am to DimTigerDontHate
Because the government fricks up everything. Because our country was founded on rugged independence and not sucking the governments teat. Because socialism leads to communism. The list really is endless.
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:23 am to DimTigerDontHate
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Why do I get the feeling that if public libraries and public schooling didn't already exist today, they would be seen as some far left radical socialist idea?
I am 100% against any federal government involvement in either of the two institutions you listed above. As others have pointed out, what a local community agrees to pay for/support with their own money is very different from a federally run/managed/financed program.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:24 am to DimTigerDontHate
How did creating a whole generation or two of citizens dependent on welfare benefit society?
How will paying off student loans for gender study grads of expensive private schools benefit society? How will gov takeover of healthcare benefit society (ever been to an irs or social security office) benefit society?
You socialists never stop so your socialism will lead to the next stage.
No thanks.
You people already said you’d stop at statues. No one sane believes you ever stop.
Good luck with your socialism fantasy. But I do have a question. Why not move to an already socialist country if you freaks love it so much? The rest of us would help you pack so that you can live with your unicorn friends in utopia away from the rest of us.
How will paying off student loans for gender study grads of expensive private schools benefit society? How will gov takeover of healthcare benefit society (ever been to an irs or social security office) benefit society?
You socialists never stop so your socialism will lead to the next stage.
No thanks.
You people already said you’d stop at statues. No one sane believes you ever stop.
Good luck with your socialism fantasy. But I do have a question. Why not move to an already socialist country if you freaks love it so much? The rest of us would help you pack so that you can live with your unicorn friends in utopia away from the rest of us.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Public libraries are such a bad example
Right.
Everyone gets to use it, roads, and parks equally.
But not everyone gets to share a welfare check, food stamps or section 8 housing equally.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:26 am to DimTigerDontHate
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We already live in a socialist society in many respects, and it has only worked towards the betterment of society.
This is the same guy who is dumbfounded at the cost of higher education and can't figure out how prices have gone through the roof as compared to 2-3 decades ago.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:27 am to DimTigerDontHate
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Why do I get the feeling that if public libraries and public schooling didn't already exist today, they would be seen as some far left radical socialist idea? (i.e. 'Why should we have to pay for someone else's kid to have an education or read books!?') We already live in a socialist society in many respects, and it has only worked towards the betterment of society.
Name one thing the US government does on time, on budget, with good quality, and comparable or better than the private sector to directly service the American citizen. Just one.
Now imaging tripling or even quadrupling their scope.
Your welcome.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:27 am to DimTigerDontHate
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Why do I get the feeling
I will see your feeling and raise you a Constitution.
Its all in there. We keep following it we will be OK.
And never speak for the "We".
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:29 am to TigerFred
Is the OP dude an alter?
He posts like another PT socialist.
Hit and run McElroy from the Bench to be exact.
He posts like another PT socialist.
Hit and run McElroy from the Bench to be exact.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:30 am to DimTigerDontHate
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:30 am to DimTigerDontHate
quote:You're naive and deluded.
Why do I get the feeling that if public libraries and public schooling didn't already exist today, they would be seen as some far left radical socialist idea? (i.e. 'Why should we have to pay for someone else's kid to have an education or read books!?') We already live in a socialist society in many respects, and it has only worked towards the betterment of society.
There is not a single thing run by the government that the private sector couldn't/can't do SIGNIFICANTLY better.
Everything the government touches results in waste and corruption and appeasement to the lowest common denominator. And then it's exploited by politicians and community leaders for votes and authority. And then it's purposely kept at sub-status because it's easier to bribe the lazy and uninformed/misinformed to continue voting that way. All the while, "waste" is being laundered for cronyism, who then funnel money back to the politicians and community leaders who run these rackets and perpetually repeat the cycle, amassing wealth at the expense of the working class.
This already happens, and you want to expand it 10-fold?
Go frick yourself, you ignorant twit.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:31 am to CleverUserName
The military? We love funding the shite out of that.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:31 am to DimTigerDontHate
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We already live in a socialist society in many respects, and it has only worked towards the betterment of society.
No it hasn’t.
The nine most dangerous words in the English language are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
Government only serves one purpose and that’s to restrict our liberties, not protect them.
How free are you when you only have one option for healthcare, one option for a school, one option for a grocer, one option for a bank, one brand of vehicle to drive, one news outlet, one newspaper, one internet company (if you can afford it), one phone company (if you can afford it), one steel company, etc. etc.? And guess who sets the prices or decides who gets what?
Let me be extremely clear with my thoughts here, I’d rather take up arms against the government (one that I have proudly served in uniform) than ever come under the boot of it in the name of socialism, communism, fascism, or any other horseshite institution that grants the government complete autonomy over my life.
I serve one person, and He is not of this world. All others can kindly frick off.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:32 am to DimTigerDontHate
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public schooling
Do you consider this successful?
Seems to be, all we hear are how horrible our public school systems are.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:33 am to roadGator
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Is the OP dude an alter?
Of course it is...
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:34 am to DimTigerDontHate
Publix schools sucks . Even publix school teachers want their kids in charter schools. What does the government control that they actually do a good job at ?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:34 am to DimTigerDontHate
There are a lot of people who rely on the government to educate their kids who will actually say with a straight face that they aren’t socialists.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:34 am to DimTigerDontHate
I always wonder why people call Medicare for all “looking for a handout”. Medicaid is already available for poor people, so demanding Medicare for all is actually demanding more in exchange for your tax dollars. Actually getting SOMETHING tangible back from the FedGov.
But there’s no reason to change from the current system that makes everyone a slave to health insurance companies and their employers. It makes total sense that every single year people have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars to insure... their own health. No change necessary.
But there’s no reason to change from the current system that makes everyone a slave to health insurance companies and their employers. It makes total sense that every single year people have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars to insure... their own health. No change necessary.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:35 am to Ace Midnight
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Because Socialism killed 10s of millions of people in the 20th Century.
Add another zero to that one brother.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:36 am to DimTigerDontHate
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Why do I get the feeling that if public libraries and public schooling didn't already exist today, they would be seen as some far left radical socialist idea? (i.e. 'Why should we have to pay for someone else's kid to have an education or read books!?') We already live in a socialist society in many respects, and it has only worked towards the betterment of society.
Many conservatives for years have decried the creation of the Dept of Education, given that the word "education" doesn't appear in the Constitution.
Local counties/parishes run the schools, and localized govt is a feature of small-gov conservatives.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:36 am to DimTigerDontHate
quote:What a shining example of centralized govt. at its finest! Public Education is worse than the DMV and the VA combined. Public Education has failed second only to the FBI and CIA machines.
public schooling
Go ahead, name an entire public school district that has excelled in the last 20 years.
When less failure is the measuring stick for performance, the whole system needs to be thrown out and something new attempted. Public schooling, controlled by a centralized national education governing body, is such a system in need of complete destruction and replacement.
Children are NOT finding their education improved by a centralized socialist educational system. The failure is simply leveled and equaled across the entire nation!
Lowest common denominator is not a standard to aspire toward. It's like doing the Limbo: How low can you go?
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