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re: Why are we afraid of Democratic Socialism?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:59 am to HT713
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:59 am to HT713
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anything north of 5billion in personal net worth, to me, is basically immoral.
Why? Are they taking money away from other people?
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to have bezos worth 130b basically makes him an oligarch in my mind. for us to give a single person that much political power
That's not an issue with Bezos. That's an issue with our elected representatives being bought...err...I mean lobbied.
And you know who allows them to be bought? You and I, the American voter. Because we keep voting for them.
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:01 pm to Centinel
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Why? Are they taking money away from other people?
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That's not an issue with Bezos. That's an issue with our elected representatives being bought...err...I mean lobbied. And you know who allows them to be bought? You and I, the American voter. Because we keep voting for them.
That’s a fact jack.
“Congress/senate is a shite show and needs to be fixed”
“I love my congresssman/senator! They aren’t the problem”
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:05 pm to HT713
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we might as well call him King George
And yet a man he terribly despises is the current President and will win 4 more years. He sucks at being the king.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:07 pm to beerJeep
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Wow. Why?
because wages have been stagnant for 25+ years and the middle class/working class has been burdened with the stress of it for too long to be ignored.
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Jealousy is never a good look.
who can forget Louis XVI's famous quote, right before the guillotine dropped:
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damn bro you jelly? lol classic OT poor I bet you don't even have a boat and yeti lol STAY MAD
one of history's most notable moments imho
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:08 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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no such thing a democratic socialism
Care to explain this?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:08 pm to HT713
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anything north of 5billion in personal net worth, to me, is basically immoral. to have bezos worth 130b basically makes him an oligarch in my mind.
Is wealth finite? Does he have to release a million for anyone else to have it?
See you fall in the same leftist trap. It’s not that you want to gain wealth. You sit and sulk at people that have it. Like it can’t be obtained because someone else owns it.
Take a damn step back and see how they became wealthy. Then follow the map. “Oh but I can’t!!” No.. you can. Leftists just want it next year and not 20 years from now.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:10 pm to Centinel
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hat's not an issue with Bezos. That's an issue with our elected representatives being bought...err...I mean lobbied.
couldn't agree more
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And you know who allows them to be bought? You and I, the American voter. Because we keep voting for them.
makes you wish there was someone running for presdient right now who didn't hold closed-door fundraisers or take big corporate money from superPACS
can you imagine if there was a guy like that? I'd vote for him
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:11 pm to HT713
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because wages have been stagnant for 25+ years and the middle class/working class has been burdened with the stress of it for too long to be ignored.
And this has to do with some rich guy..... how?
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who can forget Louis XVI's famous quote, right before the guillotine dropped:
Uh...... were..... were you going somewhere with this?
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damn bro you jelly? lol classic OT poor I bet you don't even have a boat and yeti lol STAY MAD
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one of history's most notable moments imho
I mean, you can stay jealous if you want? Doesn’t affect me. It only affects you. I’m perfectly fine accepting the fact that, while I’m pretty well off and certainly better than the majority of the worlds population, there are plenty that have more than me.
Legislate on logic and reason, not emotion.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:11 pm to CleverUserName
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You sit and sulk at people that have it. Like it can’t be obtained because someone else owns it.
I'm not sulking, I just bought a jeep last year, and now my first house in December.
"will you fight for someone you don't know?"
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:13 pm to HT713
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makes you wish there was someone running for presdient right now who didn't hold closed-door fundraisers or take big corporate money from superPACS
The President isn't the issue. And the power creep of the Executive branch is solely due to Congress being lazy because....yet again....we the people don't hold our Reps and Senators accountable and instead focus on the bright and shiny boogey-man that is POTUS.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:13 pm to HT713
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I'm not sulking, I just bought a jeep last year, and now my first house in December.
So why are you so jealous of what someone you have never and will never meet has? Seems like you have a lot to be happy about.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:14 pm to DimTigerDontHate
Point me to an example of a successful socialist nation that didn’t end in poverty, authoritarianism, and civil unrest.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:14 pm to beerJeep
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I’m perfectly fine accepting the fact that, while I’m pretty well off and certainly better than the majority of the worlds population, there are plenty that have more than me.
take a guess how many americans have a wealth over 5 billion? AKA the number of individual people that would be effected if we capped personal wealth at 5 billion
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:15 pm to HT713
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take a guess how many americans have a wealth over 5 billion? AKA the number of individual people that would be effected if we capped personal wealth at 5 billion
I, quite literally, don’t care. There could be 5, there could be 5000. Makes zero difference to me. What they have is of no importance to me.
Why is what they have important to you?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:16 pm to HT713
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take a guess how many americans have a wealth over 5 billion? AKA the number of individual people that would be effected if we capped personal wealth at 5 billion
they're people too man.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:17 pm to HT713
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anything north of 5billion in personal net worth, to me, is basically immoral. to have bezos worth 130b basically makes him an oligarch in my mind. for us to give a single person that much political power, we might as well call him King George
Why 5 billion? Why not 100 million?
You do realize that Jeff Bezos doesn't have that money sitting in a bank or offshore account don't you? The vast majority is tied up in his ownership % in a company that he started.
What would you do? Have the government start confiscating shares of Amazon? That's a slippery slope indeed.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:17 pm to DimTigerDontHate
There is a lack of understanding with the socialist crowd about power.
Socialism is about power. The left knows they “educated” are really too stupid to understand this is about a power grab.
They sell these dumbasses on fairness and take your freedom in the process.
In our current system, money is power. Under socialism, food and resources are power.
You really want AOC controlling ANYTHING in your life?
Socialism is about power. The left knows they “educated” are really too stupid to understand this is about a power grab.
They sell these dumbasses on fairness and take your freedom in the process.
In our current system, money is power. Under socialism, food and resources are power.
You really want AOC controlling ANYTHING in your life?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:17 pm to Centinel
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.we the people don't hold our Reps and Senators accountable and instead focus on the bright and shiny boogey-man that is POTUS.
you're completely right about the TDS angle, both the people who absolutely love him and the ones who absolutely hate him vastly overestimate his power and impact. it's a system issue
my argument would be that I would rather have someone I like and trust in the white house, or any other position, than someone I dislike and distrust.
I'm not naive enough to believe that brother bernard is going to flip the whole system on its head overnight. he, like another famous jew, would probably have to wander around in the desert and die before he even got to sniff the promised land
but that's ok
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:19 pm to beerJeep
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That’s a fact jack.
“Congress/senate is a shite show and needs to be fixed”
“I love my congresssman/senator! They aren’t the problem”
i have tried to primary every republican representative of mine except Cruz for the last 10 years.
worked once. tea party lady was a psycho, almost got recalled and i then went back to the last guy.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:19 pm to HT713
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take a guess how many americans have a wealth over 5 billion?
Why does this matter? Again, do you think by having 5 billion you keep someone else from having as much wealth as they're capable of amassing?
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AKA the number of individual people that would be effected if we capped personal wealth at 5 billion
And what effect do you think capping wealth at 5 billion is going to have?
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:20 pm
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