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re: Why are "they" so obsessed with mentions of 'FLAT EARTH'? Just a silly "CT", right?

Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:00 pm to
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My last post lays it out. You say that there are so many other things.. but this shows you in real time.

On one hand you have a totally bright star and it dims as you head south.

On the other it’s the same throughout and the belief is debunked.

Choose 1 or 2.


Again, I've never been to Northern Canada or Central America. Have you?

And again, my first guess is that Polaris is brighter in Northern Canada than in Central America, but I would have to travel to those places and see for myself.

Answer my question now.

If I'm standing at the equator I can see Polaris, right?
If I moved one foot South it would be totally obscured from sight, right??
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:00 pm to
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the FE model, the sun is much smaller and much closer to the surface of the Earth than in the globe model. Therefore it is night in Afghanistan when it is day in the USA.


Wouldn’t you be able to simply look to the direction of the sun and still see it?

If I’m in a parking garage at night and I’m in a dark corner with no light (sun) above me, I can still see the light on the other side of the dark parking garage where the light above is shining down.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm to
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It is not. And it’s easily observable. Only the location in the sky is different.



You've measured the brightness in lumens of Polaris then between Northern Canada and Central America??

What instrument would one use to measure such a thing?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29912 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm to
Still no one has ever explained what is to gain out of making people think the earth is flat.

When conspiracy theorists compose a theory it almost always has a beneficiary of said lies/propaganda. If our earth is a sphere, and not flat, then who gains from selling us all on this theory?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17487 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:03 pm to
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In the FE model, the sun is much smaller and much closer to the surface of the Earth than in the globe model. Therefore it is night in Afghanistan when it is day in the USA.


How does it maintain the fusion requirements to allow the sun to burn for so long if it’s only a few thousand miles in diameter?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:03 pm to
Why can you literally see Polaris anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere but nowhere in the Southern Hemisphere?

In a flat Earth Model, Australia and Buenos Aires are extremely far apart, and you can see it in neither, and Nairobi and New Orleans and Moscow are all very far apart, and you can see it in all 3.

Why do tropical cyclones spin in different directions North and South of the equator?

Why has no person in the history of mankind ever photographed the edge of the earth?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:04 pm to
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When conspiracy theorists compose a theory it almost always has a beneficiary of said lies/propaganda. If our earth is a sphere, and not flat, then who gains from selling us all on this theory?


Big Globe you shitlord.

They can't let the little man just sell MAPS. There's no money to be made there
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:04 pm to
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How does it maintain the fusion requirements to allow the sun to burn for so long if it’s only a few thousand miles in diameter?


At what distance from the equator does Polaris disappear from view as one moves south from the equator??
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:05 pm to
Why won’t you respond to me?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31678 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Has to be. Otherwise there is a wall around the earth keeping the water from falling off the planet into space.


Dude in the video posted on the first page I think said there's ice walls around the oceans holding the water in.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17487 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:08 pm to
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You've measured the brightness in lumens of Polaris then between Northern Canada and Central America??


It can absolutely be done. And it’s waiting on the flat earthers to take those measurements and blow us all away.

Why has it not been done? You have your smoking gun.

And again…. For your theory as to why stars cannot be seen in the Southern Hemisphere is distance.

Well.. same thing works for the North Pole to Central America.

The star has to be incredibly bright at the North Pole to be able to be seen in Central America. Correct?

No one is stopping a single flat earther from going to document that. So. Why hasn’t it been done? That would kill ALL of our arguments.

Brightness is absolutely measurable. Absolutely is. And we conspiracy global earth freaks cannot stop you from learning the truth.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:09 pm to
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At what distance from the equator does Polaris disappear from view as one moves south from the equator??


First of all, the distance is going to change regularly, because of axial precession.

But at around 1.2degrees south latitude it will fade significantly.

And this will change over time. In something like 10,000-15,000 years it should be visible in most of the Southern Hemisphere.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57864 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:10 pm to
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When conspiracy theorists compose a theory it almost always has a beneficiary of said lies/propaganda. If our earth is a sphere, and not flat, then who gains from selling us all on this theory?




It's not a "conspiracy theory". That's a misnomer. It's willful ignorance and stupidity.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Dude in the video posted on the first page I think said there's ice walls around the oceans holding the water in.


Which is weird because while the OP believes in flat earth with an ice ring, he also believes in hollow earth, where the entrance is at the South Pole in Antarctica.

How he can simultaneously believe that the earth is flat with an ice ring AND that the earth is hollow with the entrance at the SOUTH POLE in Antarctica I will never quite understand.

Nor will he explain how he can hold both beliefs when they flat out disprove each other.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Wouldn’t you be able to simply look to the direction of the sun and still see it?

If I’m in a parking garage at night and I’m in a dark corner with no light (sun) above me, I can still see the light on the other side of the dark parking garage where the light above is shining down.


The FE model explains night and day like this:

flat earth with sun and moon
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17487 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
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At what distance from the equator does Polaris disappear from view as one moves south from the equator??


What does that have to do with a 3000 mile across star being able to maintain fusion??

And you cannot see Polaris from any point in the Southern Hemisphere. Hence my Equador example.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
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In the FE model, the sun is much smaller and much closer to the surface of the Earth than in the globe model. Therefore it is night in Afghanistan when it is day in the USA.


Even if it's further away when it's over Afghanistan, with it's brightness, we should still be able to see it with a telescope. From a flat Earth.

Come on, man.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
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The FE model explains night and day like this:


I know.

But you would still be able to see it in the night areas.

Just like when you’re in a big dark building and there is one light on wayyyy on the other side.

You can still see that light source and the light it casts on the ground.

Why can’t I simply look to my right or left and see the suns light during the night time? It should look like pre-dawn the entire time.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
Do you believe that?

Yes or no?

And if you do not believe that, what do you believe is more likely, the globe model or the flat earth model? Why?

Go on record, directly.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:14 pm to
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It can absolutely be done. And it’s waiting on the flat earthers to take those measurements and blow us all away.

Why has it not been done? You have your smoking gun.

And again…. For your theory as to why stars cannot be seen in the Southern Hemisphere is distance.

Well.. same thing works for the North Pole to Central America.

The star has to be incredibly bright at the North Pole to be able to be seen in Central America. Correct?

No one is stopping a single flat earther from going to document that. So. Why hasn’t it been done? That would kill ALL of our arguments.

Brightness is absolutely measurable. Absolutely is. And we conspiracy global earth freaks cannot stop you from learning the truth.


The same thing goes for you. You could go make those measurements as well. You seem to be an expert. After all, you said with much authority that there is no difference in Polaris' brightness between Northern Canada and Central America.

Yet you offer zero proof.

One more time....

At what distance south of the equator is Polaris obstructed from sight by the curvature of the Earth??

Edit:

Ok, so at the equator I can see Polaris, and six inches south it's completely obscured??
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:16 pm
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