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re: Why are the Sky Screamers panicking?

Posted on 5/2/26 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 9:53 pm to
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It isn't right for the government to pay people to have kids.


Not advocating for that. Try again.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27114 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 10:10 pm to
Your quote

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We're well below replacement birth rate and you want to remove incentives to have children.


Then you say:

quote:

Not advocating for that. Try again.


In response to m saying the gov't shouldn't be paying people to have kids.

So if what is the incentive for the tax break if it isn't financial?



Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 10:12 pm to
Do you know what a tax credit is?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 10:30 pm to
(Retarded voice and hands)

Do

you

know

what

a

tax

credit

is

?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20903 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 10:44 pm to
They woke up this morning. That’s usually enough to start them screaming
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17178 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 5:40 pm to
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All exemptions should be illegal. Everyone should pay the same tax rate, period. No exceptions. Taxes should be so simple that you don't even need to fill out tax forms if you are an employee, normal arse worker. You make x each check. Multiply x by the tax rate. That comes out of your check. Done. Just like sales tax. To simple and fair I know. Doesn't matter how many kids you have. Doesn't matter if you are married. Doesn't matter if you made 1 dollar or 1 million dollars.


Nope. That would result in a tax hike, in some cases a huge tax hike, for 80 percent of Americans.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 5:55 pm to
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are talking of a $75,000 to $90,000 tax exemption


What? What are you trying to say here? Are you saying ordinary income rate will be zero for the first 75-90k of income?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:01 pm to
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Do you know what a tax credit is?


I do. If it’s a refundable credit it is literally the government paying for people having kids. What did you think it was?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22633 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:13 pm to
That is what 2 potential democratic POTUS contenders have mentioned.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:18 pm to
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That is what 2 potential democratic POTUS contenders have mentioned.


Would absolutely destroy high earning W-2 employees. Who already shoulder too much of the burden. Democrats are absolutely insane.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22633 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:23 pm to
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Would absolutely destroy high earning W-2 employees. Who already shoulder too much of the burden. Democrats are absolutely insane.


It is always about the numbers. What a way to buy votes as well. However, as a GOP opponent, I would suggest the exemption would actually increase tax revenue to the government because those with the exemption are going to purchase more products that must be produced, hence increased employment.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:34 pm to
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revenue to the government because those with the exemption are going to purchase more products that must be produced, hence increased employment.


The word exemption is throwing me off. What is being proposed (if you have described it correctly) is an increase in the standard deduction. Exemption is usually used when discussing gifting/estate/GST taxation.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:25 pm to
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If it’s a refundable credit it is literally the government paying for people having kids.


The government letting you keep more of your own money is them paying you?

fricking bootlickers.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:30 pm to
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The government letting you keep more of your own money is them paying you? fricking bootlickers.


you clearly don’t know what a refundable credit is. Look it up. People with no jobs on welfare get money from the government for having kids. Literally the government giving them money to have kids. Not letting them keep their own money. Dumb frick. Educate yourself before calling a tax attorney that fights the IRS for a living a bootlicker. Ignorant fricking moron.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3389 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:33 pm to
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The government letting you keep more of your own money is them paying you?

You don't know what you're talking about, or you're so emotionally involved you're not thinking clearly.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:33 pm to
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People with no jobs on welfare get money from the government for having kids.


And people with jobs, not on welfare, get to keep their own money if they have children.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:45 pm to
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And people with jobs, not on welfare, get to keep their own money if they have children.


Then you should be screaming from the mountain tops that the credit not be refundable. That would keep those who have jobs keeping their money and eliminate those with no jobs on welfare receiving a handout for having kids. You dumb idiot. It never ceases to amaze me how many of you morons post with such hubris from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9561 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:50 pm to
Fair elections would decimate their party. If they cannot stuff votes they cannot win in most areas. They have no platform, at all.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Then you should be screaming from the mountain tops that the credit not be refundable.


The comment I replied too said...

quote:

All exemptions should be illegal. Everyone should pay the same tax rate, period. No exceptions.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:00 pm to
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You don't know what you're talking abou


The irony
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