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Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:32 pm to BamaAtl
They are actually hard to get, or so I have been told. Paperwork and shite.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:32 pm to BamaAtl
Why limit your question to mass shootings?
They are such a small percent of gun violence. Odd.
They are such a small percent of gun violence. Odd.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:32 pm to BamaAtl
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Every gun owned by the Las Vegas shooter was legally purchased. Same with Newtown, Orlando, San Bernardino, etc etc etc.
which is what makes any proposed regulation difficult
especially when you consider how minuscule rifle-caused deaths are in the grand scheme of firearm-related killings (and if you want to include suicide, it gets even worse). why are we focusing on the extreme minority cause of firearm deaths?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:33 pm to BamaAtl
Why do you think this this one of the only mass murderers to utilize this bump stock conversion to make the semi automatics basically automatic, if it's so easy to do?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:33 pm to BamaAtl
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But if we make them harder to get, and offer to buy back others..that number will go down.
why would any rational person offer their gun to a governemnt buy back program when the value of that gun will skyrocket?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:34 pm to BamaAtl
The only “legal” fully automatic weapons are pre 1986 before America stopped importing them for civilians.
To get one of these antiques, you’re going to pay about $15,000 and have to acquire permits through the ATF. I think there’s ~186,000 automatic rifles registered with ATF.
To get one of these antiques, you’re going to pay about $15,000 and have to acquire permits through the ATF. I think there’s ~186,000 automatic rifles registered with ATF.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the assault weapons ban of the Clinton era didn't do much
Agreed, it targeted the wrong things and wasn't nearly strong enough.
But proper gun control? Everywhere it's enacted, gun violence / gun deaths decrease.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:35 pm to BamaAtl
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Agreed, it targeted the wrong things and wasn't nearly strong enough.
classic commentary on the failure of government
"we'll get it right next time!"
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But proper gun control? Everywhere it's enacted, gun violence / gun deaths decrease.
like south and latin america?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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How prevalent was automatic weapon usage in mass shootings before the law?
How prevalent were mass shootings in general?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:36 pm to BamaAtl
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How prevalent were mass shootings in general?
i mean are we going back to the 1934 act? i don't know if we can trust the data from the 1800s
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which is what makes any proposed regulation difficult
Absolutely not. That's what shows how absurdly fricked our 'legal' gun laws are.
If the guy could stockpile 40+ weapons and enough ammo to kill >50 and injure >500 in minutes from hundreds of yards away, and it was all legal until he pulled the trigger...maybe it shouldn't have been.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:36 pm to BamaAtl
Because we don't really have a black market for them.
If we were unable to get AR type weapons legally in the U.S that would open up a market for cartels to bring in the AR's, fully automatic, with the drugs.
Then we could go on any corner and get them like ILLEGAL heroin and Cocaine now.
SIMPLE
If we were unable to get AR type weapons legally in the U.S that would open up a market for cartels to bring in the AR's, fully automatic, with the drugs.
Then we could go on any corner and get them like ILLEGAL heroin and Cocaine now.
SIMPLE
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:37 pm to BamaAtl
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But proper gun control? Everywhere it's enacted, gun violence / gun deaths decrease.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:37 pm to GenghisKhan
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They are actually hard to get
So, by that logic.....making them hard to get equates to making their use in mass shootings less likely.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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classic commentary on the failure of government
"we'll get it right next time!"
How about "other people have gotten it right, time and time and time and time again. Let's copy their work instead of setting ourselves on fire inside of this box made of gasoline and wood because the NRA likes to roast marshmallows..."
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:38 pm to BamaAtl
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Why don't we see more of them used?
Because it's counter productive when actually trying to hit a smaller target(given limited ammo). Ole spray and pray is great when you are shooting and ducking and have unlimited ammo. However, if you are the only one with a weapon, don't have to hide and are a decent shot, picking them off like flies is MUCH more efficient.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:38 pm to BamaAtl
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If the guy could stockpile 40+ weapons and enough ammo to kill >50 and injure >500 in minutes from hundreds of yards away, and it was all legal until he pulled the trigger...maybe it shouldn't have been.
i'll await your constitutioanl amendment proposal
also, given that the Contagion Effect likely increases the rates of mass killings, do you also want to ban the press from reporting on these incidents?
our media is creating more mass shootings. shouldn't we enact common sense regulation of it to curb violence?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why waste your time on that clown? Her particular strain of mind virus is incurable.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:40 pm to DuckManiak
Yes there are just not a lot of them
I mean we are talking a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of percent of firearms are fully automatic.
That alone just makes it a numbers game.
Secondly semi-automatic fire is just more accurate in 99.9% of mass shooting type cases.
Machine guns are "scary" though
I mean we are talking a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of percent of firearms are fully automatic.
That alone just makes it a numbers game.
Secondly semi-automatic fire is just more accurate in 99.9% of mass shooting type cases.
Machine guns are "scary" though
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