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re: Why are pro choice people mocking “we will adopt your baby” couples? Wtf?
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:34 am to ShoeBang
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:34 am to ShoeBang
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You put yourself in a position where you’re either right or the opposition is emotional / combative / unreasonable and thus not credible, so you win either way.
I disagree. I think more often than not, the discussion kicks off that way.
We could look at a topic most of us probably largely agree on. When discussing gun control legislation, what is your reaction to someone who starts out telling you that because you own firearms and support the Second Amendment, you have the blood of children on your hands? Is it to give credibility to unfounded ignorance and respond with data and logic, or is it to make them look like the emotionally-driven, reactionary lunatic that they are?
If we want to be honest about it, there could probably be a check on the shite being flung at the outset. Then again, who among us is actually here for diverging views that are expressed in a productive manner?
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:34 am to chalmetteowl
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so you're saying women don't care about women
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:34 am to AggieHank86
quote:I’m still looking for a Dem capable of rational thought.
The uniting principle here seems to be a belief that all Dems are emotional children, incapable of rational thought or analysis.
Haven’t found one yet. They’re either extinct or a myth
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:38 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why? Because the Left just got dunked on by Clarence Thomas and they cannot deal. Yes, a conservative black man shattered their dreams because he refused to stay on the plantation, and now the Holy icon that was Roe v Wade has been obliterated.
What we're witnessing is the utter collapse of self-awareness as the Left put on a temper tantrum display which would embarrass most toddlers.
What we're witnessing is the utter collapse of self-awareness as the Left put on a temper tantrum display which would embarrass most toddlers.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 7:42 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:41 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Then again, who among us is actually here for diverging views that are expressed in a productive manner?
I have reassessed my opinion on a number of occasions based on what others have posted.
That being said, this is TD, not the school of Athens. I like having the ability to tell someone to go frick themselves.
Imho, a true discussion starts with intellectual honesty. If logic isn’t applied, then it is a narrative, not a discussion.
I give HHTM shite all of the time (deservedly so), but I see nothing wrong with this thread or the manner in which he presented it.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you’re mocking adoptive parents, you’re not pro-choice. You’re just pro-abortion.
Pro-choice has always been pro-abortion. If they were really pro-choice, they would have fought the vaccines, too.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:57 am to jimmy the leg
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I have reassessed my opinion on a number of occasions based on what others have posted.
On anything significant? Good for you, if that's honestly the case. But, I suspect it was entirely small points that are ultimately meaningless.
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Imho, a true discussion starts with intellectual honesty. If logic isn’t applied, then it is a narrative, not a discussion.
Riiiight...which is why you generally shouldn't start the discussion with the assumption that someone you disagree with does so because they're wrong, a liberal, a cuck, etc. Yet, that's predominantly what we see too often.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:The element of reasoned discussion which is most often lacking here is the ability to start the discussion with an open mind. I agree.
you generally shouldn't start the discussion with the assumption that someone you disagree with does so because they're wrong, a liberal, a cuck, etc. Yet, that's predominantly what we see too often.
The second most lacking element is the ability, at the end of the discussion, to say “you know, that is an entirely reasonable assessment. I disagree with your conclusions, but I understand your position.”
Instead, we get childish little Endzone dances. You have parroted your side’s talking points! Cheering crowds of people who already agreed with you… Agree with you! Victory!
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:16 am to AggieHank86
quote:The problem with that is virtually every liberal position is emotion based.
The second most lacking element is the ability, at the end of the discussion, to say “you know, that is an entirely reasonable assessment. I disagree with your conclusions, but I understand your position.”
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:18 am to llfshoals
quote:The denizens of this forum are utterly convinced that I am a screaming liberal. Which of the positions that I have argued do you consider to be “emotion-based.”
The problem with that is virtually every liberal position is emotion based.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:29 am to ShoeBang
quote:I doubt this path was his choice. There's a reason he's a 'prolific voice actor' and not a marquee box office star, like Harrison Ford.
He’s one of the most prolific voice actors in animation, ever.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:32 am to llfshoals
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The problem with that is virtually every liberal position is emotion based.
I'd say it's more that people who claim to be liberals are emotionally-driven. There are certainly logical and well-reasoned liberal positions.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So Luke Skywalker is mocking couples adopting children?
What would Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru think?
What would Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru think?
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:54 am to TerryDawg03
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So Luke Skywalker is mocking couples adopting children?
What would Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru think?
No one is mocking adoption. They are mocking the ghouls who want to restrict young pregnant women into full term pregnancies so they can take the child away at birth.
Of course many of the couples posting the memes aren't serious or they would adopt one of the many kids in foster care today. And the few that are serious would screen out 90% of the prospective women and drop them like a bad habit if a birth defect was identified.
These are the ghouls that loved China's one child law.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 8:56 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:56 am to mmcgrath
So mad you can’t kill babies.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:28 am to AggieHank86
quote:Still waiting. You are active on other threads, so we both know that you’ve seen this.
The problem with that is virtually every liberal position is emotion based.quote:
The denizens of this forum are utterly convinced that I am a screaming liberal. Which of the positions that I have argued do you consider to be “emotion-based.”
You claim to be logical and reasonable. Man up. This is the chance for the reasoned, logical discussion that you say you crave. LINK
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:30 am to mmcgrath
quote:you know these young women can prevent pregnancy too. Lots of way to do this.
They are mocking the ghouls who want to restrict young pregnant women into full term pregnancies so they can take the child away at birth.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:37 am to tigafan4life
quote:Something a woman could have done two months ago doesn’t really address the problem she faces today.
you know these young women can prevent pregnancy too. Lots of way to do this.
Just sayin’
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
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Neither side trusts the other, whatsoever. Everyone is terrified that the other side will not honor any compromise which is reached.
The left has shown that you can't give them an inch on anything. Appeasement didn't work against Hitler and it doesn't work against Marxists, either.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Name one
I'd say it's more that people who claim to be liberals are emotionally-driven. There are certainly logical and well-reasoned liberal positions.
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