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re: Why are police even standing for this abuse?

Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:59 pm to
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plenty of instances of cops claiming to smell the former just to be able to search the car


Ok. So just let drunks drive?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:00 pm to
They should start by raiding the offices of the private security firms that protect those elected officials, disarm them, and disable all the gates of their communities.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Sure if you have a cop on every corner it’ll reduce “crime” but that is neither practical nor possible in America.


Now, just a minute ago, you said their presence did not reduce crime... Which is it skippy?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158994 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Are you suggesting that one of those things existing should be the basis for search and seizure?


No
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:01 pm to
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No


Then why did you dodge my question?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60082 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Sure if you have a cop on every corner it’ll reduce “crime” but that is neither practical nor possible in America


Did the article say every street corner? All it said was an increased police presence leads to a reduction in crime.

If you take the time to read the article, it’s not because there are more arrests, actually there are fewer arrests because crime happens less often.

But again you fail to show data to back up your argument I did.

More cops in the streets mean less crime. Sure someone could go over to the next street and commit the crime but that opportunity may not be available on the next street.

Let’s say someone wants to rob a bank. If you put a cop sitting inside or in front of the bank it’s less likely someone will try and rob the bank. But if you do as you suggest and keep the cops sitting around waiting for a crime to happen, it’s more likely a bank robbery will happen. Why would anyone even someone crazy try and rob a bank with an armed police officer sitting inside or outside the bank?
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Now, just a minute ago, you said their presence did not reduce crime... Which is it skippy?

Obviously if you have a cop on every corner in every street In the US there won’t be crime however having multiple cops spread out throughout a big city won’t reduce crime at all.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14896 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Grid the city and formally tell the PD where to patrol and avoid.


You already know the answer. You would be discriminating by not giving equal protection.

The problem is not discrimination. They need a crime to have a cause. Why not the 2 X 4? It didn't fit the cause.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:04 pm to
I guess we should hire 25 million more police officers then in order to get rid of crime. congrats we solved it!

Police want crime and look for crime. It gives them the ability to ask for more money because we need “law and order”
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158994 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:04 pm to
What question? I don’t take your posts seriously.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:05 pm to
What level of training do you think would be required to be able to identify this stuff with your naked eye while still preserving individual liberty?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60082 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:05 pm to
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Obviously if you have a cop on every corner in every street In the US there won’t be crime however having multiple cops spread out throughout a big city won’t reduce crime at all.


I say again prove it. There must obviously be some study out there that shows more cops doesn’t mean less crime.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:05 pm to
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however having multiple cops spread out throughout a big city won’t reduce crime at all.


Do you even realize how stupid your argument is? Their presence reduces crime and the commission of crime.

You have been advocating for them to sit in the station and wait for the call, in turn a total removal from the community and you think crime will decrease?
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104990 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:07 pm to
I think a lot of them are just drawing a check doing as little as possible after this clusterfrick. They want to survive and they want to force the cities to pay them severance if they aren’t immediately retiring.

Riots in black areas? Not Our Problem Dude.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158994 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:07 pm to
It’s a dumb question. Sane people can tell if someone is drunk.

Besides, I can’t see alcohol on your breath. That’s why they created breathalyzers. I can see your eyes, your erratic driving and I can hear your slurred speech.

You try so hard at gotchas.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:09 pm to
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You try so hard at gotchas.


It's not a gotcha. I'm asking a question because I'm curious where your priorities lay in regards to personal liberty.

Pretty low, apparently.

edit: a letter
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158994 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Pretty now, apparently.


Pretty later, actually.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16752 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Aww the people are being mean to the poor little cops how will they ever recover

Well if you think about it they are the only remaining group that:
-Is refused service at some establishments
-Is referred to with slurs that are condemned if used on other demographics
-Is stereotyped and publicly ridiculed
-Is spit on, sprayed with water and has projectiles thrown at them and expected to just take it
-Is about to have their funding reduced while other groups get more
-Has dems wanting to dissolve their union to remove the "bad ones" (hello, teacher unions)
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:10 pm to
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Pretty later, actually.


And you were talking about MY gotchas?
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