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re: Why are police even standing for this abuse?

Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:11 pm to
Well hell, we might as well quit worrying about crime as a whole. No need to have those pesky police officers disrupting communal life, which can drain social control of group-level violence. Citizens are arrested, unauthorized markets are disrupted, and people lose their jobs, all of which create more localized stress on individuals already living on the edge.

So basically turn a blind eye to crime, right? That will improve the situation?

What is your solution to this "problem"?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:12 pm to
Your gotchas are lame.

Besides, You opened the door. I merely walked through it.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Your gotchas are lame.


Where as yours are super clever!
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:15 pm to
Ok it sorta proves your point. If police don’t take time to enforce small petty crimes for some reason major crimes also fall.

But again how does this disprove the data I posted. When terrorist alert levels rise crime goes down.

What your article seems to prove is that better allocation of police resources leads to less crime. Instead of having police enforce small crimes they focus on bigger crimes. I could actually get behind this. But how does that prove that less cops on the street means less crime. All it proves is that focusing on more serious crime leads to less crime overall.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

So basically turn a blind eye to crime, right? That will improve the situation?


I mean we pretty much turn a blind eye to white collar crime
Posted by Dooder73
Member since Mar 2020
608 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:17 pm to
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LA Times


"The researchers also noted that proactive policing is often used disproportionately in communities with high poverty rates and large numbers of people of color."

I wonder why this is done...
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:19 pm to
Why did Willie Sutton rob banks? Because that’s where the money is.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:19 pm to
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I mean we pretty much turn a blind eye to white collar crime


So now it's whataboutism's? I'm sure Martha Stewart wished a blind eye was turned.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:20 pm to
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I mean we pretty much turn a blind eye to white collar crime


Damn son, you are all over the map with this shite...
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:22 pm to
Because crime is tracked by arrest statistics and calls. Most people aren’t going to call the police if they think they might see a drug deal on the street. Obviously high level crime will receive calls. But if you took all police off the streets then they’re would be virtually 0 recorded data for low level crime. All I’m saying is if you want to do a drug deal or something similar and a cop is in the parking lot across the street all you have to do is go a few blocks over
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:24 pm to
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Damn son, you are all over the map with this shite...


Fiddlehead:
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:24 pm to
Except I never posted a gotcha question.

Ugh. You are one weird prog.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:24 pm to
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Damn son, you are all over the map with this shite.


Have you looked at our criminal justice system? So is that
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104990 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:25 pm to
How much dealing (per volume) is done on the street vs out of certain houses?

Not just crack houses. Cops can figure out when someone is probably dealing weed out of a back room in a nice neighborhood just because of the level of traffic they get.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
158994 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:25 pm to
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I mean we pretty much turn a blind eye to white collar crime


Why do we have federal country club prisons then?

You for anarchy? Drinking driving? Looting?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:29 pm to
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I mean we pretty much turn a blind eye to crime


I'll ask, again, what is your solution to this "problem".

Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:33 pm to
To white collar crimes?
Posted by Dooder73
Member since Mar 2020
608 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:33 pm to
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Because crime is tracked by arrest statistics and calls. Most people aren’t going to call the police if they think they might see a drug deal on the street. Obviously high level crime will receive calls. But if you took all police off the streets then they’re would be virtually 0 recorded data for low level crime. All I’m saying is if you want to do a drug deal or something similar and a cop is in the parking lot across the street all you have to do is go a few blocks over


"“Certainly, this evidence should not be generalized across the broad array of proactive policing strategies,” said Weisburd, who was not involved in the paper. “It is limited to a very specific approach applied very broadly in a large urban area."
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:35 pm to
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To white collar crimes?


Nope. You read it right the first time. No need for your deflection.

That's what you want, right? To turn a blind eye to crime.

Did you even read the entire article that you linked?

This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:48 pm to
There is not cut all solution to the crime problem. There will always be crime no matter what. However the USA has done a hell of a job creating more crime. There’s a reason we have the highest incarceration rate in the world
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 2:48 pm
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