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re: Why are people at my work saying that trump took away medicaid and food stamps 4 americans

Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:59 am to
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3812 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:59 am to
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Nothing I posted is untrue or misleading.


What you posted was untrue and misleading.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3860 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:06 am to
Because "They have to go back"
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1343 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:10 am to
Because democrats lie to
Americans to their faces and people fall for it
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:11 am to
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Is the bill lying? I literally quoted the bill. Are you Claiming the bill is not telling the truth about what is in the bill? Specifically what are you claiming I’m lying about? What exactly is not true about what I posted? Like many others in this thread, you’re calling me a liar while refusing to identify the lie.


You’ve decided to make those who abuse the system the victim. What this does is make good people who pay into the system resent you for being a disingenuous scumbag and give cover to those abusing the system that what they are doing is justified. You do it under the guise of compassion.

Your type of compassion leads to Americans being killed, murdered, hooked on fentanyl, and ultimately having a lower quality of life as they are burdened by debt from these parasites you protect

Keep up the charade. Good times ahead.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70015 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:21 am to
That’s what’s it’s been reduced to unfortunately
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70015 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:22 am to
And you know this how?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42472 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:25 am to
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You look down on people working jobs you deem iferior for no valid reason. You’re just being a snob.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:29 am to
Correct. I don’t look down on anyone making an honest living.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42472 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:32 am to
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Correct. I don’t look down on anyone making an honest living.


You’re being obstinate.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:33 am to
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Why are people at my work saying that trump took away medicaid and food stamps 4 americans


Well, I would have to say you are working with a bunch of mindless idiots...
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1033 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:33 am to
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In order to pay for tax cuts, millions of people will lose Medicaid and and at least one million people will lose SNAP eligibility.
If reception of this assistance is declared illegal, should it not be eliminated? Do you think that child tax credits are also welfare?

My personal view is that raising the standard of living for one by reducing the standard of living for another (redistribution of wealth) is just theft (redefined). A tax credit given to anyone who has not had income taken or exceeds the amount the government has taken is in the same category.

In my opinion, tax cuts are not ‘payed for’ by virtue of the fact that it only reduces the degree of theft. I have not researched if these things are going to reduced or eliminated but if they are, then it is simply stealing less from taxpayers.

My wife and I have worked hard to earn, lived within our means, and eliminated our debt. Why should exercising discipline be punished so that the lack of such be rewarded?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:36 am to
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You’ve decided to make those who abuse the system the victim.


How?

quote:

What this does is make good people who pay into the system resent you for being a disingenuous scumbag and give cover to those abusing the system that what they are doing is justified. You do it under the guise of compassion.



I didn’t even do what you’re accusing me of, but lets look at what happened in Georgia after it implemented Medicaid work requirements.

quote:

Georgia, the only state with a Medicaid work mandate, started experimenting with the requirement on July 1, 2023. As the Medicaid program’s two-year anniversary approaches, Georgia has enrolled just a fraction of those eligible, a result health policy researchers largely attribute to bureaucratic hurdles in the state’s work verification system. As of May 2025, approximately 7,500 of the nearly 250,000 eligible Georgians were enrolled, even though state statistics show 64% of that group is working.


quote:

Health care analysts and former state Medicaid officials say Georgia’s experience shows that the congressional bill, if it becomes law, would cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in administrative costs as it is implemented while threatening health care for nearly 16 million people.


LINK

Pre-Big Bloated bullshite, conservatives claimed to oppose bureaucracy. Now you’re weaponizing it.



Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:39 am to
You totally missed his point

But I’m not surprised. You are clearly a mental midget, with a low iq
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:40 am to
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Why should exercising discipline be punished so that the lack of such be rewarded?


I’m not sure how old you were when you figured out that taxes are collected in the United States, but you’re surely old enough now to relocate to a country with the same values you have. Why do you choose to stay in a country that collects taxes if you view them as theft?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:42 am to
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You totally missed his point


Not at all. People working jobs others think are inferior should have made different life choices you approve of instead of working menial jobs.

Understood.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29636 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:43 am to
What they want to cut is the well bodied person from living off of medicaid instead of getting their asses up and going to work, a lot of Americans treat medicare as their means of living.


Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:53 am to
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Rural hospitals will be shuttered as well from this.
this had already been happening. Rural hospitals get most of their money from private insurers. Almost all hospitals lose money on Medicare and Medicaid but larger hospitals have more leverage to negotiate with private insurers. Where i live, all the smaller hospitals have been gobbled up by a medical mafia of larger ones.

And lest we forget:

quote:

October 21, 2015

Obamacare Crushing Rural Hospitals

Though the administration claimed Obamacare’s Medicare cuts would be used to extend the life of the Medicare trust fund, they were actually used to pay for Obamacare’s massive new entitlements. Despite the billions of dollars Obamacare spent to try to boost health insurance enrollment, the administration continues to fall short of its coverage goals. For hundreds of rural hospitals, the Medicare cuts make it difficult to stay afloat

Obamacare reduced federal payments for the uninsured, known as Disproportionate Share Hospital payments. This money goes to hospitals with a disproportionate share of uninsured patients. Obamacare reduced these payments with the expectation that they would be less necessary once more people had insurance, especially through Medicaid expansion. The expansion has not happened like the administration expected, but the DSH payments were still cut. Many states could not bear to put more of their residents in a Medicaid program that already struggled to care for their communities’ sickest and poorest people. Other states could not have afforded to expand even if they wanted to – Medicaid expansion requires states to cover part of the bill starting in 2017, which is an enormous challenge for cash-strapped states. By taking away these hospitals’ DSH payments, Obamacare dealt another financial blow to small hospitals across the country.

Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
4000 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:56 am to
American Royalty forced to work.

That’s a hit reality show.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:56 am to
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Rural hospitals get most of their money from private insurers.


False. Most of their money comes from Medicare and Medicaid.

LINK

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115491 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:58 am to
They're lying.

Imposes a work requirement for able bodied adults w/o young children

Kicks illegals off

That's it.

That's all.
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