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re: Why are Moronials such whiny losers that blame all of their failures on Boomers?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:40 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:40 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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At some point, you just have to pat them on the head, hand them their Metamucil, and put them to bed.
Or you can post facts that prove they're wrong.
But you guys never do that. It's not hard to figure out why.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:40 pm to DeathValley85
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No. Stop it. This is fiction.
Because you say it is.
That's not how this works. I'm not limited by your ignorance.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:41 pm to David_DJS
quote:Absolutely false.
But if you view the cost of living the same way (factored for inflation and value), things are about the same today as they were then.
Hell, just college tuition by itself has increased at a rate 4x higher than overall consumer prices, and that is from the mid-80s.
A 400% increase in cost.
Healthcare, housing, childcare, food, all have outpaced baseline inflationary rates.
Non-important objects like tvs and cellphones have decreased.
Cars were “relatively” stagnant, until the world went to hell.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:41 pm to David_DJS
quote:David, surely this is some sort of game these kids are playing?
David_DJS
They cant really be this stupid? Can they?
we'll see
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:42 pm to David_DJS
Multiple people have laid things out as plainly as possible for you boomers and were met with sky screaming and moving of the goal posts.
Just vote the way I want you to and stay out of policy please
Just vote the way I want you to and stay out of policy please
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:43 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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on three regional boards, an executive directors board, on multiple local boards, have accomplished more in your lifetime that you can imagine.
and just beginning a new career.
How many OT10s do you have notched in that belt?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:44 pm to David_DJS
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To understand how expensive the American Dream has become — and whether it is still achievable today — we gathered Census data from 1960 to 2017 on home prices, rents, and household income. After adjusting for inflation over time, the future of the American Dream seems rather gloomy: Median home prices increased 121% nationwide since 1960, but median household income only increased 29%. Home buyers aren’t the only ones struggling. Median gross rent increased by 72% since the 1960s, more than twice the growth seen by adjusted incomes, making renting costlier than ever and saving for a future home difficult.
That’s from a one second google search. It hasn’t hard to find information…unless you don’t want it because it conflicts with what you believe.
Are you trolling? If so man good job.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:45 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:THAT has not happened, unless "words really are that hard" for you
people have laid things out as plainly as possible for you boomers and were met with sky screaming
I believe that you are playing a game - nothing else seems possible
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:46 pm to David_DJS
That is just from 1996 on.
And if you don’t like that graph, I can find you another…and another…and another saying the same thing.
The three most important aspects of society are education, housing, and healthcare, and they outpaced everything else.
Why is this so hard to accept for you?
This world is becoming unaffordable.
All the shite that is more affordable are completely useless junk.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:47 pm to Scruffy
quote:it is a game these kids are playing
That is just from 1996 on.
And if you don’t like that graph, I can find you another…and another…and another saying the same thing.
The three most important aspects of society are education, housing, and healthcare, and they outpaced everything else.
Why is this so hard to accept for you?
This world is becoming unaffordable.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:48 pm to David_DJS
They aren't digging deep enough. #1) They aren't using total compensation #2) wages are simultaneously rising, stagnating and growing rapidly at the same time. It's not a generations fault that individual parents failed to guide them to growing industries with high demand for labor. Something mean, median and modes don't pick up
#3) personal earnings increase over time so no shite millenials aren't as rich as their parents
and on and on and on...
and on and on and on...
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:50 pm to Scruffy
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Hell, just college tuition by itself has increased at a rate 4x higher than overall consumer prices, and that is from the mid-80s.
That depends on where you go to school and what you study.
I never argued you guys haven't had more bullshite to wade through. bullshite as in noise. You have. It never occurred to me when I was 18 to go spend $10K per year to study genders rather than spend $5K to study engineering.
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Healthcare, housing, childcare, food, all have outpaced baseline inflationary rates
It's less expensive in real terms to feed a mouth today than it has been in the past. Now if "feeding" means eating out, having food delivered, etc., okay, that is more expensive than it was back in the day to go to a store, buy food, take it home and make it.
Same argument for most of the rest of your list. Childcare is something I'm not sure about.
Healthcare is an interesting one to debate.
I tore up my knee playing basketball my freshman year in college. I don't remember what it cost for the surgery - the school paid for it - but the "repair" was a joke (as in ineffective) compared to how torn ACLs are repaired today. So let's say back then it cost $1000 for that surgery, and today it costs 2X on an inflation adjusted basis. Is that more or less expensive today?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:51 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:looks like it
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David_DJS
David, surely this is some sort of game these kids are playing?
They cant really be this stupid? Can they?
we'll see
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:52 pm to Scruffy
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Healthcare, housing, childcare, food, all have outpaced baseline inflationary rates.
That's because most people don't personally pay for these items
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:52 pm to DeathValley85
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That’s from a one second google search. It hasn’t hard to find information…unless you don’t want it because it conflicts with what you believe.
Are you trolling? If so man good job.
Do you think the size of homes about doubling might be part of the picture here? Central air? Attached 2-car garages?
Like I said, you guys are economic illiterates.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:54 pm to wutangfinancial
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They aren't digging deep enough. #1) They aren't using total compensation #2) wages are simultaneously rising, stagnating and growing rapidly at the same time. It's not a generations fault that individual parents failed to guide them to growing industries with high demand for labor. Something mean, median and modes don't pick up #3) personal earnings increase over time so no shite millenials aren't as rich as their parents
and on and on and on...
They are economic illiterates. They actually think life is harder today than in the distant past.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:55 pm to David_DJS
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Do you think the size of homes about doubling might be part of the picture here? Central air? Attached 2-car garages?
They don't even build small starter homes any more. Millenials are price takers, not price makers, when it comes to housing. The overwhelming majority are forced to rent anyways, and even that has outpaced inflation by 73%. It's not just because they're renting "luxurious homes", ALL homes are more expensive, even the crappy shotguns off of Plank Road.
The reality is that if one wants to work for a living and raise a family of children that go to decent schools and live in a neighborhood where they're less likely to get mugged in their driveway, it has never been MORE expensive to do so. Doing so likely requires more years of education, at a significantly higher price, with duel incomes, paying exhorbitant childcare costs, and paying higher rent/mortgage and taxes. This generation must work far far far more hours to get to the same place than did boomers or gen xers at the same times of their careers.
All of these costs are pure economic data. Let's not forget the wave after wave of socio-economic colamities that repeatedly put young workers behind the 8 ball when it comes to getting a stable job. 2008 hit right when they were trying to get their first job experiences. That meant that when they graduated college, they were less likely to have decent internships and experience. Because of the glut of workers, companies were demanding more and more experience and education, but workers struggled to find spots on the lower rungs that they could jump on to start climbing.
By 2020, they should have been established in their careers, but instead, many were just making it beyond the entry level because entry level was demanding 5 years of experience. Let's see...2008+4 years of undergrad +2 years of grad school + 5 years of grinding equals...COVID! Covid hits as soon as they should be able to transition into real professional level sustainable jobs, wiping out millions of careers and thousands of businesses overnight.
While the supply chain crisis created a dearth of workers for unskilled work, the professional class is stuck struggling to find decent work. You can say "well, you shoulda been a plumber", but it would take several more unproductive years of apprenticeship before one could switch careers to plumbing. In the meantime, they can't afford rent, and they're going without health insurance.
These workers get trapped in the gap, or are forced into the gig economy. They barely make enough to survive, and not enough to invest in skills that open up higher up work. They're educated in a career field that won't hire them, but because they've now got a gap on their resume, employers won't touch them. They're years away from being able to switch to something else, but cannot afford to pause making enough to eat long enough to switch.
There's literally millions of folks that are stuck in this same trap right now, and boomers think that all of them are poor because "oh, they spend too much on coffee and avocado toast". That could not be further from the truth as that stereotype is beyond inaccurate for 90% of the demographic.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:56 pm to David_DJS
quote:They probably are that illiterate but it looks like they are ALSO playing a game.
They are economic illiterates. They actually think life is harder today than in the distant past.
No one is that stupid, no?
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:58 pm to David_DJS
Scruffy showed you averages over time and you’re willfully ignoring what is staring you in the face. I refuse to believe you’re an engineer who can’t understand how to interpret this data.
We aren’t economically illiterate, you’re just so biased you can’t think straight. Making excuses for what is so obvious.
You don’t realize Jimmy and wutang are trolling. You’re the true believer and your agreeing with them is making you look like a fool.
We aren’t economically illiterate, you’re just so biased you can’t think straight. Making excuses for what is so obvious.
You don’t realize Jimmy and wutang are trolling. You’re the true believer and your agreeing with them is making you look like a fool.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:00 pm to DeathValley85
quote:Nope - that DID NOT HAPPEN
Scruffy showed you averages over time and you’re willfully ignoring what is staring you in the face.
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