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re: Why are conservatives such staunch supporters of Putin?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:26 am to Paige
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:26 am to Paige
There is no obsession with Putin. There are just Ukraine obsessed dumbasses who take a staunch "with us or against us" mentality. Someone doesn't fully support crippling our own country to send endless funds to Ukraine? Well, they are a Putin lover! It's quite similar to the strategy used when people don't vote Democrat. Someone doesn't vote Democrat? Then they are racists who want to enslave black people.
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:27 am to VolcanicTiger
I don't think he is a good politician, especially in geopolitical terms. Even Bush II, with the quagmire that was Iraq, wasn't as short-sighted. No US politician has been as myopic as Putin, partly because they aren't in office as long. Obama's FP was utterly terrible, and even his FP was better than Putin's.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:28 am to Paige
If our shite arse media and politicians are saying he's bad, he's probably not that bad.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:29 am to crazy4lsu
Last night was really embarrassing for you OT Politcal War thread diehards
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The last large appropriation. But after this 40 bil is spent the Russian will be wiping their asses with sticks so not as much will be needed.
Happy Holidays
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:29 am to Plx1776
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There is no obsession with Putin. There are just Ukraine obsessed dumbasses who take a staunch "with us or against us" mentality.
If you disagree with sending money to Ukraine, you're a
"Putin stooge" according to the Ukraine retards.
They can't see anything between extremes.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:30 am to crazy4lsu
hes clearly not interested in impressing the west with his FP bonafides. Hes trying to reclaim soviet lands by force and create a buffer between Moscow and a hostile west. The Russian people love that shite, and thats all he cares about.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:31 am
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:37 am to Paige
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Paige
When people stereotype women as stupid, think of this thread as exhibit A.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:37 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:So he's basically 0bama with testosterone. 0bama could suck Reggie Love and Kal Penn and go out to a podium, drop a quote from "Fresh Prince", drop a mic, and then let a Mike drop him. He played to his ignorant base. Putin is no genius, but he has qualities that are missing in current world leadership, that is why we held him up as an "ideal" in contrast to 0bama 10 years ago - not because we liked Putin, but because the contrast was night and day.
hes clearly not interested in impressing the west with his FP bonafides. Hes trying to reclaim soviet lands by force and create a buffer between Moscow and a hostile west. The Russian people love that shite, and thats all he cares about.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:37 am to Vacherie Saint
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hes clearly not interested in impressing the west with his FP bonafides. Hes trying to reclaim soviet lands by force. The Russian people love that shite, and thats all he cares about.
But there are still real-world implications. The Russian FP elite themselves see a cosmic battle with the West, and have argued such since before Putin was in power. But Putin's objectives of keeping NATO off his western frontier are going to fail regardless of the intermediate outcome of the Russian invasion. In addition, areas like the Caspian Basin, the Black Sea, Syria, and the Kuril Islands will all see increased competition, with a corresponding drain on Russian resources.
And if your viewpoint is true, that the Russian people want to reclaim former Soviet areas by force, then the US aid to Ukraine is barely noteworthy, as the Russians (and especially their elite) themselves want conflict, and it is only a question of when.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:38 am to AggieHank86
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The Trumpists and far Right have been singing hosannas to Putin for 4-5 years, because he is everything they they love. A Jew-hating, gay-bashing extreme nationalist, for example.
And here we go with the Christian-hating bigotry to get the morning started.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:38 am to Paige
Just because we don’t want billions of our taxpayer dollars going to Ukraine to be laundered for ALL our so called representatives means we support Putin? You win the most stupid post on the internet today award. Congrats 
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:38 am to Paige
I'm conservative, and I despise Putin. Now what? Does that skew your observation?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:38 am to Paige
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I really don’t understand the far right’s obsession with putin. So I’m genuinely curious. I can’t really get to the core of it through other social media outlets. Can anyone explain?
I think you're projecting the anger at dropping billions of dollars in a shithole country we have no business funding as support for Putin.
frick Ukraine but honestly, frick Russia too. frick all of them who we give money to.
No lie. If you polled this country, I'd bet 90% of them would tell you all of Eastern Europe could frick right off.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:39 am to Paige
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I really don’t understand the far right’s obsession with putin. So I’m genuinely curious. I can’t really get to the core of it through other social media outlets. Can anyone explain?
You're absolutely confused when you make a claim that conservatives support Putin. The truth is....the vast majority of America First patriots no longer trust our federal government, particularly the current illegitimate regime. If there were responsible and competent people at the highest levels of our federal government there's a very high probability the Russia/Ukraine conflict is avoided.
"Elections have consequences, stolen elections have catastrophic consequences."
Steven K Bannon.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:39 am to VolcanicTiger
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Putin is no genius, but he has qualities that are missing in current world leadership
Like what specifically?
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that is why we held him up as an "ideal" in contrast to 0bama 10 years ago - not because we liked Putin, but because the contrast was night and day.
That seems like a terrible reason to look up to anyone.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:40 am to AggieHank86
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The Trumpists and far Right have been singing hosannas to Putin for 4-5 years, because he is everything they they love. A Jew-hating, gay-bashing extreme nationalist, for example.
You are such a fricking twat. I really hope the stupidity you display here daily is just an act you do for entertainment.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:40 am to VolcanicTiger
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that is why we held him up as an "ideal" in contrast to 0bama 10 years ago
The reason why you held him up as an ideal in contrast to Obama is because you're a fricking moron
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:43 am to AggieHank86
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The Trumpists and far Right have been singing hosannas to Putin for 4-5 years,
Its amazing how easily youre duped by mainstream media.
You live in a prog world and pretend to know everything about the right. You only know the lefts caricature of the right
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:43 am to Powerman
quote:0bama was shite and we are still watching our nation self-destruct thanks in no small part to him, but you keep fapping to your Big Mike pictures.
The reason why you held him up as an ideal in contrast to Obama is because you're a fricking moron
Let's do a poll:
Who has harmed America more?
0bama or Putin?
To say 0bama 10,000,000 to 1 would be a gross underestimation. GFY.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:43 am to Giantkiller
quote:The Far Right love affair with Putin had been ongoing for years before he invaded Ukraine and we sent the first dollar of military aid.
I think you're projecting the anger at dropping billions of dollars in a shithole country we have no business funding as support for Putin.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:45 am
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