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re: Why are conservatives ignoring Catholic Churches are the ones bringing in illegals
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:46 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:46 am to RaoulDuke504
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Catholic Churches act as NGOs
Nope. Catholic Charities (and complicit doiceses), but the operating entities are not at all the same as your Local Lady of Parish
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
Congress and President Joe Biden’s government have reportedly paid the Texas arm of Catholic Charities USA $769 million since 2021 to help deliver a huge population of poor migrants into U.S. communities, workplaces, and housing.
Obligated prime grant awards for Catholic Charities locations in Texas amount to $769,192,082.35 (often contractual amounts), of which $450,462,304.35 is reported as outlayed (actual funds paid out so far).
Obligated prime grant awards for Catholic Charities locations in Texas amount to $769,192,082.35 (often contractual amounts), of which $450,462,304.35 is reported as outlayed (actual funds paid out so far).
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:49 am to Lima Whiskey
Someone brought receipts. Nice
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:50 am to RaoulDuke504
You should see declining church attendance. We are not, I no longer donate to CC, I find other charities. No where in the bible does it say I have to attend a CC, it just says I need to keep Jesus in my heart, honor him and believe. The Pope has jumped the shark, saying I committed a "grave sin" by not wanting to put my family in danger, nope, I am out. He has entered the realm of Marxist politics and I will not participate. When and if the CC returns to the area of spirituality and gets out of politics, I would be very happy to return.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:51 am to L1C4
I will go eat the body and get the delicious blood but no money until I’m told that no illegals are being helped by our church or the organizations it supports.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:52 am to Big4SALTbro
Why do you even receive the Eucharist if you don’t agree with fundamental Christian and Catholic dogma?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:53 am to RaoulDuke504
~90% of what you put in the plate during mass in Catholic churches stays with the church or parish (FIL was CIO for a diocese so it's come up). That said, the wife and I no longer tithe to the church because of things like this the church has gotten involved with.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:53 am to RaoulDuke504
The Catholic Church, like society as a whole, has been infiltrated by commies and other ne'er do wells.
If you have a good priest and a parish council (many lay leadership positions are full of domineering leftist females) you'll hear the gospel. Otherwise, find another parish.
If you have a good priest and a parish council (many lay leadership positions are full of domineering leftist females) you'll hear the gospel. Otherwise, find another parish.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:56 am to RaoulDuke504
I quit giving to the Church long ago when my ex brother in law hid behind the Church with my nieces and wouldn't allow my mother to see her grandchildren and Catholic Family Services did NOTHING to help a grandmother see her grandchildren. And then again when CFS denied us even a chance at helping us with adoption....yeah, I'll go to church and be a member of a Catholic Parish and even participate in the lay ministry, but I'm not giving the corrupt part of the Church any money.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:56 am to Big4SALTbro
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absolutely no money to the church unless it’s a specific building fund. Also absolutely no time or money to any org involved in bringing illegals in.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:57 am to Lima Whiskey
Catholic Immigration Network isn't part of https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/about-us/leadership/.
US Catholic Conference of Bishops funds and governs the Catholic Immigration Network which is a legal clinic. The people you show are nothing more than the legal worker bees they aren't the decision makers.
US Conference of Catholic Bishops Board of Directors
https://www.cliniclegal.org/about-us/board
As an independent 501 (c)(3) non-profit organization, our Board of Directors includes 19 men and women with extensive experience and commitment to immigrants. The Board oversees CLINIC’s work and helps to ensure we make progress on our mission of promoting the dignity and protecting the rights of immigrants in partnership with a dedicated network of Catholic and community legal immigration programs.
Most Reverend Jaime Soto
BOARD CHAIR
Bishop of Sacramento
Ms. Marguerite (Peg) Harmon
VICE PRESIDENT
Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona
Sr. Sally Duffy, SC
TREASURER
Child Poverty Collaborative
Ms. Anna Marie Gallagher
Secretary
CLINIC, Inc.
Most Reverend& Michael J.K. Fuller
General Secretary, USCCB
Most Reverend Roy E. Campbell
Auxiliary Bishop of Washington, D.C.
Mr. William Canny
Migration and Refugee Services, U.S.
Conference of Catholic Bishops
Most Reverend Jacques Fabre-Jeune, CS
Bishop of Diocese of Charleston
Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio
Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Eusebi Elizondo
Auxiliary Bishop of Seattle
Most Reverend Gregory J. Hartmayer, OFM Conv.
Archbishop of Atlanta
Most Reverend Gerald Kicanas
Bishop Emeritus of Tucson
Mr. Francis J. Mulcahy, J.D., M.T.S
Georgia Catholic Conference
Mr. Mark D. Palmer
(Retired) Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Catholic Relief Services
Mr. Vincent Pitta
Pitta LLP
Most Reverend Mark J. Seitz
Bishop of El Paso
Mr. D. Taylor
UNITE HERE
Most Reverend George L. Thomas, Ph.D.
Bishop of Las Vegas
Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski
Archbishop of Miami
Ms. Geraldine P. Carolan
US Catholic Conference of Bishops funds and governs the Catholic Immigration Network which is a legal clinic. The people you show are nothing more than the legal worker bees they aren't the decision makers.
US Conference of Catholic Bishops Board of Directors
https://www.cliniclegal.org/about-us/board
As an independent 501 (c)(3) non-profit organization, our Board of Directors includes 19 men and women with extensive experience and commitment to immigrants. The Board oversees CLINIC’s work and helps to ensure we make progress on our mission of promoting the dignity and protecting the rights of immigrants in partnership with a dedicated network of Catholic and community legal immigration programs.
Most Reverend Jaime Soto
BOARD CHAIR
Bishop of Sacramento
Ms. Marguerite (Peg) Harmon
VICE PRESIDENT
Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona
Sr. Sally Duffy, SC
TREASURER
Child Poverty Collaborative
Ms. Anna Marie Gallagher
Secretary
CLINIC, Inc.
Most Reverend& Michael J.K. Fuller
General Secretary, USCCB
Most Reverend Roy E. Campbell
Auxiliary Bishop of Washington, D.C.
Mr. William Canny
Migration and Refugee Services, U.S.
Conference of Catholic Bishops
Most Reverend Jacques Fabre-Jeune, CS
Bishop of Diocese of Charleston
Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio
Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Eusebi Elizondo
Auxiliary Bishop of Seattle
Most Reverend Gregory J. Hartmayer, OFM Conv.
Archbishop of Atlanta
Most Reverend Gerald Kicanas
Bishop Emeritus of Tucson
Mr. Francis J. Mulcahy, J.D., M.T.S
Georgia Catholic Conference
Mr. Mark D. Palmer
(Retired) Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Catholic Relief Services
Mr. Vincent Pitta
Pitta LLP
Most Reverend Mark J. Seitz
Bishop of El Paso
Mr. D. Taylor
UNITE HERE
Most Reverend George L. Thomas, Ph.D.
Bishop of Las Vegas
Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski
Archbishop of Miami
Ms. Geraldine P. Carolan
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 9:58 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:59 am to HeadSlash
quote:Sacraments came directly from Jesus. I think he wanted us to participate in them.
You should have a personal relationship with God. No middle man.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:00 am to Bard
quote:
because of things like this the church has gotten involved with.
The Church has served the poor and indigent since its inception. In fact, that’s precisely what Jesus preached. This isn’t some new cause the Catholic Church has taken up.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:00 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:
Taken from the other thread
Look at the surnames
Mass migration is a Jewish issue
not to be superficial but those are some butt-ugly females. plus a soyboy. all blue state shills.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:03 am to RollTide1987
quote:Jesus needs to tell you baws how to recognize when you’re being manipulated.
However, when illegal immigrants arrive on the doorstep of a church and ask for assistance, Catholics serve them and other newcomers in accordance with our sincerely held religious beliefs, abiding by the teachings of Jesus Christ, affirming the inalienable rights and dignity of every person, and providing Christian charity as a visible sign of God’s love and mercy to those in need.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:04 am to 4cubbies
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Catholics dogma respects the life and dignity of all people, regardless of what country they were born in. Did you not know this very basic Catholic principle? You’re mad at the church for being Catholic.
I don't think Barbeque, the de facto leader of Port Au Prince, is being very respectful of the life and dignity of the citizens of the aforementioned city. Especially of the women and the children.
I don't think it is respectful to the life and dignity of the citizens of a small town to dump a sizeable amount of newcomers into their community without their consent.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:05 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:06 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:
Look at the surnames
Mass migration is a Jewish issue
Biggest government grifters of all time.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:08 am to jchamil
Well, there’s a lot of corruption church, both physical, and ideological. Look at the pedophilia scandal and homosexual mafia protecting each other.
The Pope is the product of liberation theology though, which was a Marxist infiltration in the South American church.
Marx was looking at the modern world and answering the question, how do we gain access to power in a Christian society, and how do we make the world safe for Jews. And the end result is very clever, his concept didn’t work with the poor, but it was very seductive to middle class people who dreamed of more, people who didn’t have a lot power and were very materialist.
*Mass migration is popular among Jews because it gives Jewish people a sense of physical security, given their smaller relative population, and given how loyal they are to each other as group, because it gives them more power in society.
The Pope is the product of liberation theology though, which was a Marxist infiltration in the South American church.
Marx was looking at the modern world and answering the question, how do we gain access to power in a Christian society, and how do we make the world safe for Jews. And the end result is very clever, his concept didn’t work with the poor, but it was very seductive to middle class people who dreamed of more, people who didn’t have a lot power and were very materialist.
*Mass migration is popular among Jews because it gives Jewish people a sense of physical security, given their smaller relative population, and given how loyal they are to each other as group, because it gives them more power in society.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:08 am to 4cubbies
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Why do you even receive the Eucharist if you don’t agree with fundamental Christian and Catholic dogma?
Because what is being spouted by the pope is not catholic dogma. It is getting dangerously close to humanism and that is the antithesis of traditional catholic teachings. The Pope is trying to use the faith to force through political ideas.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 10:10 am
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