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re: Who will cry uncle first - Americans or Iranians

Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:37 am to
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:37 am to
Seeing as how oil prices are not really rising, the pain is really only on one side.

Oil is flowing through the strait via dark fleet, while alternate pipelines come online.

There is no reason for the US to "cry uncle" at all, no rush in getting the job done.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:38 am to
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Kushner are ineffective


No one takes this limp wrist seriously. They know he’s motivated by lining pockets.

Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13726 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

The Panicans were the first to start crying

I think the first people to speak up were the ones who didn't want to start any more wars in the Middle East to begin with.

Is that the Panican crowd?

Or the ones who thought this would be over in weeke like Trump promised?

Are those the Panicans?
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12246 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:41 am to
Americans.


Can’t win when the other side has no problem with dying.

Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40731 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:42 am to
Agree. Prices on anything mean little to them. Pain could mean something though.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
16051 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:55 am to
Panicans.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:30 am to
quote:

We have to make the ruling party there weak enough that the combination of the Kurds and the non-Islamists throw them out.


How plausible is that? Honestly.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4783 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:34 am to
What do you mean? We already have.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:34 am to
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President Trump has taken the "choke off their economy with sanctions" approach


Have sanctions ever worked to get a country to act right?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Seeing as how oil prices are not really rising, the pain is really only on one side.


Because they have stayed high
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:48 am to
He's now just flailing in post after post.

Have sanctions ever worked?

Oil prices have "stayed high".

pathetic
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1905 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:49 am to
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How plausible is that? Honestly.


It’s hard to guage with how little news comes out of Iran.

When the pilots were shot down and before the rescue, the Iranian people intentionally blocked the surrounding roads so the IRGC had a much harder time getting to the area.

The IRGC has been killing and jailing Iranians the whole time since their uprising that got 40,000 Iranians murdered. Who knows how many, I’ve read thousands, but they are probably going after the ones with influence.

I think what could tip the scales could be if/when the regular army breaks from the current Iranian government. Their regular army are supposedly not fanatical and do not get the special privileges the IRGC gets.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23069 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:56 am to
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Our navy blockaded Iran in order to create economic pressure

Iran and their proxies block the straits to cause shipping issues, raising prices

Who will cave first?


Well, for one, the Iranian people have no choice in this matter, you fricking moron; the strait is also not closed. You cannot close a body of water; only a moron like you believes the propaganda.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38355 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:08 am to
Depends on who can outwait the other and willing to put up with pain the longest.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:10 am to
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Depends on who can outwait the other and willing to put up with pain the longest.


can you give us your view on what "pain" each side currently faces?

is "the pain" equal for each side right now?

Posted by Basshole7
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2017
443 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:19 am to
The ONLY solution: start targeting and killing the leaders. Kill a bunch and the rest will leave the country and live very well off their stolen oil money.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21034 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:25 am to
I don’t care as long as the stocks keep chugging along.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38355 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:39 am to
Pain and tolerance is individual. I've known big, ostensibly tough guys who could not put up with an impacted wisdom tooth. And little to averaged sized guys who wouldn't flinch or wince.

Depends on the capacity of either side to put up with what they consider hardship and for how long. Iranians could see the US as an invading force on their doorstep, thus they might resist longer than what we in the West would consider......reasonable?

How long does the American public want to foot the bill before the compounding little pains begin to grow.

So for us it comes down to how much does it start to effect the pocketbook and for how long. For Iran it's how much economic deprivation can it with stand irrespective of the pocketbook....food shortages, fuel, psychological. They have 2700 years of history of fighting wars and knowing what that means.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:53 am to
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Pain and tolerance is individual


It is. so are agenda's. One might tolerate "pain" more if they agree with a particular agenda and/or political ideology. Another might over exaggerate individual pain because they don't agree with a particular agenda or believe that yelping in (faux) pain somehow hurts the political ideology being employed.

thanks for you thoughts

Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:38 pm to
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He's now just flailing in post after post. Have sanctions ever worked? Oil prices have "stayed high". pathetic


What’s pathetic is your inability to discuss topics

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