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re: Who thought Epstein was killed by the Clintons? Who thought he was killed by Trump?

Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:49 am to
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37260 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:49 am to
Don't care. He's dead. It's a non-issue.

IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11821 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:59 am to
I think the MFer is still alive.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26176 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:34 am to
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Then there are those who believe Epstein is alive and well somewhere.


Hanging with Elvis, living off the land somewhere in the mountains.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23179 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:38 am to
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Hanging with Elvis, living off the land somewhere in the mountains.


Forgot about them.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38011 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:45 am to
Why would team Trump kill Epstein and then work in good faith with Maxwell?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:52 am to
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Why would team Trump kill Epstein and then work in good faith with Maxwell?


He wouldn't. I just wanted people to recognize that the overwhelming majority of people who thought Epstein's death was covered up were conservatives.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9139 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:16 pm to
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If Trump claims that the Epstein matter is a hoax or distraction, the release of the files is a good step towards ending the problem. Hmmm, I wonder why he opposes it…


That’s some real deep thinking there, Einstein.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9139 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:21 pm to
MAGA has pulled off 2 magical things. Getting the left to pretend to care about Epstein and getting the left to pretend to care about federal spending.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:22 pm to
We all know who you think did it, Temu VOR
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59192 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:28 pm to
It seems like the democrats are gay pedophiles and the republicans are more like haha gotcha the 20 year old Russian chick is actually 17 1/2


Politics should be like the priesthood. No women allowed
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50017 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

To cut to the chase, if you thought Epstein was killed, who did you think had it done?


It fits the Clinton M.O. (Vince Foster is one that I think the Clinton's probably had killed). But, Epstein was already locked up. He was being monitored by both people and cameras. Somebody (probably a few people) from within the corrupt system had to coordinate this.

My best guess is that the Clinton's were not in a position to have pulled this off (with both guards going to dinner at the same time, and a camera randomly glitches while BOTH guards went to eat).

And, as usual, the corrupt, bought-and-paid-for corporate media didn't touch it until now that they are trying to make President Trump, who never visited the island, the primary culprit in all of this.

It speaks to a Deep State hit. Much like with JFK, only Epstein was a sitting duck so the DS simply had to coordinate the best time to pull it off.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38011 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:12 pm to
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He wouldn't. I just wanted people to recognize that the overwhelming majority of people who thought Epstein's death was covered up were conservatives.

Yep.

And for the record I consider myself a conservative and from what I know about Epstein's death, if he is even dead, is that I've seen enough very suspicious circumstantial and anecdotal evidence to know in the gray matter between my ears that we haven't been told the truth.

Even when Bongino and Patel made their very definitive statements on the subject, you could obviously see from their mannerisms that they (especially Bongino) didn't even believe the bullshite coming out of their own mouths.

But since I became fully awake circa 2020, it doesn't surprise me. They lie to us about literally everything and it's by design. The contradictory reporting from all sides forces people to feel like they need to fit in with one crowd or another. It's a manipulation technique capitalizing upon the tribalistic nature of the human condition. The more divided we are over which "side" is correct, when both "sides" are deliberately misinformed about one another and all subject matter, just reinforces the establishment's firm grasp on the narrative. Through narrative control, the populace is controlled.

It's herd mentality, and very few people are psychologically predisposed to resist it. There are few inherent contrarians and nonconformists. I flatter myself that I am counted amongst the few, for the most part. Even in my earliest formative years of childhood and my early teens when I was trying to find a group to belong to, where I actually fit in, it never felt natural and I didn't understand it. It only ever felt right to march to the beat of my own drum.

Anyway, kinda went off the rails there. But there's definitely a "side" (perceived, anyway) that I align with more closely in ideology. I just wish that our public and civic representation on that side was anything other than a bunch of Warpigs and NeoCon RINOs.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:13 pm to
You are one obsessed weirdo with JE
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:19 pm to
Why do all you Epstein fatheads think he was killed over sex? He was in the money laundering business. Billions of dollars. Odd how he was never charged for it. He was not killed over some sidebar Lolita prostitution ring.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:25 pm to
Purity tests are always the last refuge of the left. When they run out of ideas they start the “well your guy isn’t perfect so muh” nonsense
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:30 pm to
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It's herd mentality, and very few people are psychologically predisposed to resist it.


Great summation.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
961 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:32 pm to
During the 2015 campaign we were told daily that Hillary had advanced dementia and was going to die any second. 2 years later she is organizing the assassination of Bill's buddy, right under the nose of the stable genius, and 10 years later she is still alive.

That old bird is sneaky.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11379 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Or give a reason that sounds more palatable about why they can't be released


If Trump is using them for leverage, he can't really come out and say that, can he?

If Trump had a plan to release them at a later date, which seems likely from his responses, he couldn't really say that, either. Can you imagine the outrage from the TDS crowd if he did that?

Conservatives are always demanding that their leaders give them and the democrats full exposure into all the inner dealings of the administration. Of course, this helps democrats plan strategies against Trump's agenda, but the conservatives can't see that. They just demand to be known the game plan, like fans demanding the HC broadcast his game plan before the match against a rival, because their individual feelings are more important than the success of the group.

Conservatives don't understand that winning in politics sometimes requires playing politics. They demand Trump hamstring himself and then complain when nothing happens. It's a vicious cycle the TDS crowd is in. Throw up obstacle after obstacle in front of Trump, complain when nothing changes.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:44 am to
He was killed by the Deep State... which the Clinton's are much more affiliated with than Trump is.
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