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re: Who is the leading, most credible, person saying humans are not causing global warming?
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:16 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:16 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
Who is the leading, most credible, person saying humans are not causing global warming?
Honestly, this mentality is exactly what has sustained the DS for so damn long. People who need to look to some kind of “leading, credible” person to tell them what to think.
There are no experts. Anywhere. For anything. Full stop.
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:17 pm to GumboPot
Temperature data certainly supports global warming theory:
Read this article below:
"Every heatwave occurring in Europe today is made more likely and more intense by human-induced climate change," said a study published by scientists at World Weather Attribution on the Human contribution to record-breaking June 2019 heatwave in France.
"The observations show a very large increase in the temperature of these heatwaves. Currently such an event is estimated to occur with a return period of 30 years, but similarly frequent heatwaves would have likely been about 4 ºC cooler a century ago. In other words, a heatwave that intense is occurring at least 10 times more frequently today than a century ago," it said.
The five days of unusually high temperatures followed days with record-breaking temperatures further east in Europe. This led to the month as a whole being around 1°C above the previous record for June, set in 1999, and about 1°C higher than expected from the trend in recent decades, according to the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecast (ECMWF) Copernicus Climate Change Service.
Météo-France verified a new national temperature record of 46°C in Vérargues and a temperature of 45.9° Celsius in nearby Gallargues-le-Montueux on 28 June. It was the first time in modern French history that 45°C has been exceeded."
The truth is uncomfortable, and literally burns!
Read this article below:
"Every heatwave occurring in Europe today is made more likely and more intense by human-induced climate change," said a study published by scientists at World Weather Attribution on the Human contribution to record-breaking June 2019 heatwave in France.
"The observations show a very large increase in the temperature of these heatwaves. Currently such an event is estimated to occur with a return period of 30 years, but similarly frequent heatwaves would have likely been about 4 ºC cooler a century ago. In other words, a heatwave that intense is occurring at least 10 times more frequently today than a century ago," it said.
The five days of unusually high temperatures followed days with record-breaking temperatures further east in Europe. This led to the month as a whole being around 1°C above the previous record for June, set in 1999, and about 1°C higher than expected from the trend in recent decades, according to the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecast (ECMWF) Copernicus Climate Change Service.
Météo-France verified a new national temperature record of 46°C in Vérargues and a temperature of 45.9° Celsius in nearby Gallargues-le-Montueux on 28 June. It was the first time in modern French history that 45°C has been exceeded."
The truth is uncomfortable, and literally burns!
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:20 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:All reputable climate experts recognize that human activities play a role.
Who is the leading, most credible, person saying humans are not causing global warming?
The vast majority do not see human activity as the sole variable.
Exactly what do you want to "prove," and we can find you an "expert" who says it.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:21 pm to baybeefeetz
This isn't for OP, as he's just trolling for downvotes, but if anyone is interested, there is a great in-depth video by Randall Carlson on this, talking about how CO2 used to be at much higher levels, and in the late 1800s and early 90s there was research showing increased CO2 levels greatly increased plant growth, as well as crop yields. In addition, in the distant past, when the Earth was much greener, CO2 levels were in the thousand ppm range vs the ~400 ppm range we're in now. And the earth wasn't significantly hotter.
The truth is that CO2 levels have a much bigger effect on plant health and growth rates, as well as drought tolerance, than it does on climate.
See video:
Kosmographia podcast
Edit:
If you'd rather read than watch a video
Edit again:
Blue is Temp, Purple is CO2
Your "Hockey Stick" is the tiny little bit at the end on the bottom right.
The truth is that CO2 levels have a much bigger effect on plant health and growth rates, as well as drought tolerance, than it does on climate.
See video:
Kosmographia podcast
Edit:
If you'd rather read than watch a video
Edit again:
Blue is Temp, Purple is CO2
Your "Hockey Stick" is the tiny little bit at the end on the bottom right.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:21 pm to tarzana
quote:
Just now there are three climactic events going on, that certainly suggest manmade global warming, if not actually prove it:
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1. Europe is in the grip of a record HEAT WAVE, most unusual and unexpected for the third week of winter.
Has it ever happened before? Especially before the industrial revolution.
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2. California's Bay Area is being assaulted by monstrous storms, waves, and record flooding
Has this ever happened before? Especially before the industrial revolution.
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3. A "Greenland Buckle" is warming the ice cap there at an unprecedented rate. Since it's still meteorological winter in the Northern Hemisphere, the "loosening up" of ice sheets below the surface won't present as frank melting, and sea-level rise, until August or September.
Has this ever happened before? Especially before the industrial revolution.
If the answer is "yes" to any of these, you have just proven "man" has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:04 pm to kmdawg17
quote:
There are no experts. Anywhere. For anything. Full stop.
That's a strong take. Do you never seek expert assistance (e.g. mechanic for your car, physician for illness, lawyer for legal problems, etc.?)
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:15 pm to baybeefeetz
POINT #7:
The UN's IPCC has proven that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
COUNTERPOINT
No scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming has been found by the IPCC even though they do their best to look for it.
It is important to note that the IPCC was not created to evaluate the cause of climate change but to document that it is man-made. In their own words:
The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
(2. in PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK)
In 1996 they were caught blatantly corrupting the peer-review process for their “The Science of Climate Change 1995” report (Wall Street Journal A Major Deception On Global Warming). The article reports that the following passages were in the approved report but deleted from the supposedly peer-reviewed published version:
• None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases.
• No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes.
• Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced.
LINK
The UN's IPCC has proven that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
COUNTERPOINT
No scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming has been found by the IPCC even though they do their best to look for it.
It is important to note that the IPCC was not created to evaluate the cause of climate change but to document that it is man-made. In their own words:
The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
(2. in PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK)
In 1996 they were caught blatantly corrupting the peer-review process for their “The Science of Climate Change 1995” report (Wall Street Journal A Major Deception On Global Warming). The article reports that the following passages were in the approved report but deleted from the supposedly peer-reviewed published version:
• None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases.
• No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes.
• Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced.
LINK
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:16 pm to baybeefeetz
Mtntiger.
If you disagree with him, you are a closed-minded, science-denying, fascist bigot.
If you disagree with him, you are a closed-minded, science-denying, fascist bigot.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:21 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:I know, lets take a vote to find what opinion "is leading"
quote:
The scientists saying there is no climate emergency does not answer the OP. Most of those scientists believe that humans are probably forcing some global warming.
no they don't.
real scientists know they would be laughed of their podium if they portrayed this as anything but the HOAX it is.
they believe the sun is 99.9% of the variation of planetary temperature variations - which is why all planets experience the same increases and decreases.
Please list who you consult for - they are as bogus as you are.
BWAAA HAA HAA
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:22 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:I know, lets take a vote to find what opinion "is leading"
quote:
The scientists saying there is no climate emergency does not answer the OP. Most of those scientists believe that humans are probably forcing some global warming.
no they don't.
real scientists know they would be laughed of their podium if they portrayed this as anything but the HOAX it is.
they believe the sun is 99.9% of the variation of planetary temperature variations - which is why all planets experience the same increases and decreases.
Please list who you consult for - they are as bogus as you are.
BWAAA HAA HAA
Then we could take a vote on the "leading" opinions for each of the major planets going through the same thing
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:24 pm to baybeefeetz
Read Unsettled by Steven Koonin.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:33 pm to tarzana
quote:
The truth is uncomfortable, and literally burns!
That burning sensation is probably your last few braincells expiring in that tiny, thick skull of yours.
quote:
World Weather Attribution
Nothing more than a hit team of hacks using public funds to advance personal bias as "science". Predictable that a gullible, uneducated nutjob like you would parrot them...
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:38 pm to baybeefeetz
Credible and saying humans are NOT responsible…
James Spann Meteorologist in Birmingham. His educated statements works for me.!
I think a well known Meteorologist Joe Bastardi calls it out as bunk too.
James Spann Meteorologist in Birmingham. His educated statements works for me.!
I think a well known Meteorologist Joe Bastardi calls it out as bunk too.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:46 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
Do you never seek expert assistance (e.g. mechanic for your car, physician for illness, lawyer for legal problems, etc.?)
None of those people are experts. Very good at their job? Possibly
Experts? Absolutely not
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:08 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Leading as in politician? Scientist? Nobel laureate?
Who is the leading, most credible, person saying humans are not causing global warming?
Thanks.
One should first ask who amongst the warmist cult still abides questioning inherent in the Scientific Method? Who amongst the warmist cult actually understand cause of climate change ... WITHIN AN ICE AGE?
Who amongst the warmist cult acknowledges science is not a "consensus-driven" field? If consensus was determinant Earth would remain the center of the universe, and miasmatic theory would explain disease.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:46 pm to AggieHank86
quote:"Reputable Climate Experts" is a bit of a Catch-22.
All reputable climate experts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:32 pm to tarzana
quote:F o l l o w
Read this article below:
t h e
M o n e y . . .
quote:
The Associated Press revealed last year that it had scored $8 million to promote claims of global warming. The AP impartially described this massive conflict of interest as an illustration of “how philanthropy has swiftly become an important new funding source for journalism”.
“This far-reaching initiative will transform how we cover the climate story,” its executive editor claimed. That is no doubt true. And an incredibly damaging admission.
The philanthropic quid-pro-quo saw five organizations fund the AP’s dedicated team of “more than two dozen journalists” to cover “climate issues” that the wire service would then plant in papers around the country to terrify Americans into supporting ‘green’ taxes and subsidies.
LINK
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:44 pm to Ace Midnight
What in the frick are you even talking about? Do you believe I think humans cause global warming? Guess what. I don’t, because I don’t know shite about the issue. I’m trying to read stuff from both sides to try to understand better.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:48 pm to dafif
I don’t believe anything because I don’t know enough about the subject.
some very strange reactions Gere. Holy frick.
some very strange reactions Gere. Holy frick.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:55 pm to baybeefeetz
If a tree falls in the forest, does it make any noise?
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