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re: Who is tGOAT President of the United States?

Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:47 am to
Since Washington, Reagan. GOAT is Washington. Washington could have been King, Emperor, Chancellor, Prime Minister, anything he wanted. And he earned the right. He relinquished power voluntarily, knowing it was what was best for the country. I don't think we even begin to understand the debt we owe to many of our founding fathers, but especially Washington.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:52 am to
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Told the British the same thing about the Pacific Northwest.


Not really, we did split it with the British. I agree on everything else, though. Dude campaigned on manifest destiny and carried it out. Kudos to a president doing what he said he would do.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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Created our welfare state. He gets a good reputation for WW2.


He also created the WPA which helped to employ a significant number of Americans at a time where employment was scarce.

Many of the schools in older LA communities were built using WPA funds

One could argue, FDR did not create the welfare state. Social Security benefits have been expanded by other administrations to go beyond FDRs intention
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:59 am to
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George Washington


Yeah. He established the standard.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:00 pm to
Andrew Jackson
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:01 pm to
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I wouldn’t call him progressive



He was the FIRST progressive president, and ran as such with the Bull Moose party.

It wasn't until the campaign of 1912 when Taft and Roosevelt split the Republican vote, and Wilson took over the mantle of Progressive - which has stuck with the Democratic party ever since.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:04 pm to
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He also created the WPA which helped to employ a significant number of Americans at a time where employment was scarce.


In a free market society, it’s not government’s place to create employment merely for employment’s sake. It’s government’s place to implement economic policies which spur and encourage employment.

The alphabet agencies were a quick and lazy band-aid which in the long run, did nothing to end the Great Depression. It took our entry into WWII to do that.
Posted by pennypacker3
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:14 pm to
1. Washington
2. Lincoln
3. FDR
4. Eisenhower
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:15 pm to
Washington
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:16 pm to
Sounds awfully like the modern Democratic Party....
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:16 pm to
Washington, Lincoln, FDR

Most underrated: McKinley
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Richard Nixon

Seriously?

Do you even Nixon Shock, bro?

Can you imagine if Obama had proposed such regulation?

Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:25 pm to
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The guy believed that the U.S. was destined by God to own all land from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Without that, where would we be today? Hardly the military & economic power we are because we have wide open access to the two major oceans.


Let's go further. One of the premises and justifications of manifest destiny was the idea that we were bringing the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities that Americans enjoyed to new areas. By the end of the Mexican War, Winfield Scott had sacked Mexico City, and all of Mexico was there for the taking. To extend manifest destiny even further, why not then swing south and take all of central and South America. I can't see much resistance coming from those areas at the time. Would Europe have then gotten involved? That's the kicker. Imagine an empire of the United States encompassing practically the entire New World.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:35 pm to
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we were bringing the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities that Americans enjoyed to new areas.



If if want to call genocide "freedom", I guess...
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:38 pm to
Washington

Could have been king, turned it down
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Without breaking up the trusts we wouldn’t have emerged into the world leader country we have been since world war 1


While true, he kick started the massive centralized administrative state leviathan we have today that hurts free trade.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:53 pm to
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If if want to call genocide "freedom", I guess...


I'm telling you what manifest destiny was selling.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:57 pm to
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manifest destiny was selling...


...free land.

...at the native population's expense.

Think about virtually unlimited free real assets for the taking constantly being added to the economy.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68494 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:07 pm to
Tie between George Washington and Teddy Roosevelt
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