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re: Who is tGOAT President of the United States?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:01 am to REG861
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:01 am to REG861
*my opinion
At the time of its writing, the Emancipation Proclamation was purely propaganda. Support for the war in the North had faltered badly, and Lincoln piggybacked the Union victory at Antietam with the EP to regain support for the war. Yes, Lincoln was anti-slavery, but until the 13th Amendment, slavery was simply a means to an end for him.
At the time of its writing, the Emancipation Proclamation was purely propaganda. Support for the war in the North had faltered badly, and Lincoln piggybacked the Union victory at Antietam with the EP to regain support for the war. Yes, Lincoln was anti-slavery, but until the 13th Amendment, slavery was simply a means to an end for him.
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:08 am to High C
Calvin Coolidge.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration has been minding my own business."
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration has been minding my own business."
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:09 am to High C
Emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in rebellious states. It was all fluff. Slaves in border states that remained enslaved. Nice job Abe, congrats on being responsible for the death of 600k Americans
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:13 am to Make It Rayne
All in all.... I gotta go with FDR. To many reasons to list
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:13 am to Upperdecker
Who's the 7 cocksucker pussies that downvoted bull moose?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:14 am to High C
quote:
At the time of its writing, the Emancipation Proclamation was purely propaganda. Support for the war in the North had faltered badly, and Lincoln piggybacked the Union victory at Antietam with the EP to regain support for the war. Yes, Lincoln was anti-slavery, but until the 13th Amendment, slavery was simply a means to an end for him.
not an unfair take.I did admit his primary objective during the war was to preserve the union; he wasn't some ardent abolitionist during most of his presidency. But the fact is that he WAS instrumental in the abolition of slavery. It's not unfair to point out the nuance or even cynicism of his policies. Of course on this board, you're going to hear from some poster (not you) still butthurt that the Union won that Lincoln was an evil racist and kind, benevolent Nathan Bedford Forrest actually wanted to advance the freedom of slaves.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:15 am to Make It Rayne
Marty Van B
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:16 am to REG861
George Washington
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:18 am to tiger perry
when debating politics on this board remember that there are people here who have stated that kids who survived a school shooting are "pieces of shite" because they are pushing for more gun control. I mean, I can get disagreeing with them, but the poli board members were saying things like "if those are the type of people Cruz had to go to school with, well. . ."
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:26 am to tiger perry
I can understand those putting forth Washington. The only thing that I see it being backed up with is the fact that he chose to step aside after two terms, which is admirable. The fact is that Washington didn't really have a taste for governing. Most of "his" policy, which was precedent for presidential action, came at the advice of Jefferson or Hamilton. As someone stated earlier, these two were in a constant tug of war over the shaping of the new nation.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:28 am to Make It Rayne
Gerald Ford
Didn’t have time to screw much up
Didn’t have time to screw much up
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:28 am to Make It Rayne
James K. Polk
He said he'd only served one term & did just that. He brought in Texas & then the southwestern U.S. Told the Mexicans to frick off, it's ours. Told the British the same thing about the Pacific Northwest.
And before the Mexicans start crying w/ their "theft of their territory," they're darn lucky Polk didn't send his folks back down to Mexico City & tell them we were taking all of their territory.
The guy believed that the U.S. was destined by God to own all land from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Without that, where would we be today? Hardly the military & economic power we are because we have wide open access to the two major oceans.
He said he'd only served one term & did just that. He brought in Texas & then the southwestern U.S. Told the Mexicans to frick off, it's ours. Told the British the same thing about the Pacific Northwest.
And before the Mexicans start crying w/ their "theft of their territory," they're darn lucky Polk didn't send his folks back down to Mexico City & tell them we were taking all of their territory.
The guy believed that the U.S. was destined by God to own all land from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Without that, where would we be today? Hardly the military & economic power we are because we have wide open access to the two major oceans.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:31 am to Make It Rayne
Reagan
Ike
Washington
Jefferson
Lincoln.
One of those 5.
Ike
Washington
Jefferson
Lincoln.
One of those 5.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:32 am to Kraut Dawg
Polk was our most underrated president for sure
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:34 am to Make It Rayne
William Henry Harrison. He didn’t screw anything up his entire presidency.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:35 am to Upperdecker
I think it’s interesting how southerners view Lincoln. I grew up in the North but have lived in the South for 20 years.
The differences in perspective are remarkable.
The differences in perspective are remarkable.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:35 am to Barrister
quote:
FDR
Created our welfare state. He gets a good reputation for WW2.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:36 am to Make It Rayne
This is why I stay off the poli-retard board. Top shitshow thread on a Sunday morning on the OT.
ETA - Disregard the OT reference. All else applies.
ETA - Disregard the OT reference. All else applies.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 11:38 am
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:40 am to Make It Rayne
Abe Lincoln, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and it seems the greates of them all is Donald don't give a shite what I say Trump 
Posted on 2/25/18 at 11:41 am to SelaTiger
Read the list from bottom to top and you will have a way more accurate list of best to worst.
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