re: White House preparing for major narrative shift: sudden deaths = Long COVID, not the vaxx.

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Because there is evidence that mRNA vaccines cause Myocarditis.

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At a rate lesser than actual COVID infection

COVID infectoin poses higher risk of myocarditis than vaccines

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The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.

"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection," the study's lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England.

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At a rate lesser than actual COVID infection

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Yeah. A lot of viral inflections cause it. But how do you prove that all these people dying had long Covid? And how do you prove it with enough certainty to “change the narrative” rather than just letting this play out?

White House should stay out of this.

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At a rate lesser than actual COVID infection

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Skinsuit, attempt to explain why this is relevant when even the most ardent covid shot supporters, except for the “doctor” in this thread, acknowledge the shot does not prevent covid infection.

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attempt to explain why this is relevant when even the most ardent covid shot supporters, except for the “doctor” in this thread, acknowledge the shot does not prevent covid infection.

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It's relevant in the sense that it destroys the absurd claim that the majority of these excess deaths are because of the vaccine

You aren't very smart. Start thinking more before you ask stupid questions.

Also, are the risks cumulative to a degree. With each shot is there an increasing elevated risk of sudden death?

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95% effective in preventing Covid. Was that accurate?

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For delta yes

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And you were just as wrong as they are. I’ll tell you what long-covid is. You remember we used to have people we called hypochondriacs? You notice they are all gone? They are the ones with “long-covid”, which was around before the vaccines started.

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I agree with penrod that long Covid is not vaccine related.

I disagree that it had or has anything to do with hypochondria. I would provide as evidence that there were people I know with long Covid symptoms before the vaccine was even available to the public.

I know one who went from being a long distance runner to being unable to hold a five minute conversation without being out of breath.

Seems likely that long Covid is basically a hardening of the pulmonary walls similar to hypertension in the heart due to some immuno response to the infection.

Why it impacted some people and not others and how it can be treated would require extensive clinical research.

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It's relevant in the sense that it destroys the absurd claim that the majority of these excess deaths are because of the vaccine

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It does nothing of the sort. Even if what you are regurgitating was true, your argument is now:

- activity 1 increases a person’s chances for bad outcome a
- activity 2 also increases a person’s bad outcome a, and does not prevent activity 1 from occurring
- person should still do activity 2, and activity 2 should not be blamed for increased incidences of bad outcome a

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You aren't very smart.

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see above you fricking imbecile

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Start thinking more before you ask stupid questions.

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You, a literal bot who’s next original thought will be your first in a very long time, are telling other people to start thinking.

Gunna blame the vaccine deaths on Trunp by 2024

Some people still think that the Vax works??

Gullible!