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re: White guy killed 10 in Buffalo grocery store
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:28 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:28 pm to mmcgrath
I guess you just have to have a certain skeptical and cynical mindset for this type situation. And I would stress that there isn’t necessarily any one single aspect that sends up red flags, but when a good handful of suspicious details or aspects are taken together as a whole, some red flags do go up for me. And I would also say that me personally, I haven’t come to any definitive conclusions. Yet.
But just for the sake of clarification, maybe a couple such details that contribute are that an official at the press conference specified that the perp was not from Buffalo but instead “drove a long distance” to get there. While the perp specified one of the primary factors in selection of location was convenience of proximity, closeness to home. Strange differences IMO. Also the terminology and tone of the manifesto definitely don’t strike me hard as that of a wayward 18 yr old boy. And it’s very peculiar to me that luckily for him he was aware that the particular market was what we have in our neck of the woods is the County Market. 8 or 9 out of 10 shoppers are black. His bases just seemed to be a bit too covered for only the input of any 18 yr old.
But just for the sake of clarification, maybe a couple such details that contribute are that an official at the press conference specified that the perp was not from Buffalo but instead “drove a long distance” to get there. While the perp specified one of the primary factors in selection of location was convenience of proximity, closeness to home. Strange differences IMO. Also the terminology and tone of the manifesto definitely don’t strike me hard as that of a wayward 18 yr old boy. And it’s very peculiar to me that luckily for him he was aware that the particular market was what we have in our neck of the woods is the County Market. 8 or 9 out of 10 shoppers are black. His bases just seemed to be a bit too covered for only the input of any 18 yr old.
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:45 pm to davyjones
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But just for the sake of clarification, maybe a couple such details that contribute are that an official at the press conference specified that the perp was not from Buffalo but instead “drove a long distance” to get there. While the perp specified one of the primary factors in selection of location was convenience of proximity, closeness to home. Strange differences IMO.
His last known address is Conklin, NY, about 3 hours away from Buffalo. Now, maybe he moved to a closer town recently, but Conklin, NY is in the middle of nowhere and several hours away from just about anywhere. Being close to home could be very relative to where he was.
quote:He had a lot of free time. I also haven't examined his manifesto closely, but it seemed to largely be based off of the New Zealand shooter. None of that seem suspicious to me. I mean he is a mass shooter. There are going to be some abnormal things about him.
Also the terminology and tone of the manifesto definitely don’t strike me hard as that of a wayward 18 yr old boy. And it’s very peculiar to me that luckily for him he was aware that the particular market was what we have in our neck of the woods is the County Market. 8 or 9 out of 10 shoppers are black. His bases just seemed to be a bit too covered for only the input of any 18 yr old.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:51 pm to mmcgrath
No doubt you’re correct, the entire situation overall is nothing but abnormal, considering what it is. And like I mentioned, I agree and expect there to be a “usual” number of more specific abnormalities. But I note more than “usual,” and the two or three I cited were just a sampling. Again, I’m just talking about a justifiable amount to at least be suspicious.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:57 pm to PeepNCroom
Kultcha
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:58 pm to mmcgrath
Here is something to ponder. There are thousands of people killed by illegal firearms in America's cities every year. And we do not care in the least bit. And then when some random individual publishes a manifesto somehow we suddenly become concerned. It is the height of hypocrisy to be concerned about an aberration when you ignore the norm.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:04 pm to davyjones
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But just for the sake of clarification, maybe a couple such details that contribute are that an official at the press conference specified that the perp was not from Buffalo but instead “drove a long distance” to get there. While the perp specified one of the primary factors in selection of location was convenience of proximity, closeness to home.
His purported reasoning for the particular target from page 58:
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Strategy application:
-Zip code 14208 in Buffalo has the highest black percentage that is close enough to where I live.
-Top’s Market is an area in zip code 14208 where a high percentage and high density of blacks
can be found.
-Top’s Market has 1 or 2 armed security guards with full size glocks, IIIA armor will stop their
ammunition.
-According to Google and independent study, 4:00 PM on Friday is the most populated time at
Top’s.
-I made a map of the inside and decided the best plan of attack for highest chance of success
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:12 pm to Obtuse1
I know it. It says what it says, no doubt. But for me that’s not much help if I’m not exactly sold on the legitimacy of the thing to begin with. Do I know either way for certain, definitely not. But again just speaking for myself, I find much to be suspicious about both regarding the manifesto and the physical event itself.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 2:02 pm to Wolfhound45
At least he’s caught and gone away… he could have been a racist for 60-80 more years if he didn’t shoot anybody
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:07 pm to WWII Collector
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But your a gamer arn't you? Bet you $20 you got a game console and games and play regularly.. Tell me I am wrong.
100%. Nothing wrong with this at all. Certainly not anything to be ashamed of.
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My exact post was: "Video game time (And the specific games) should be added into all investigations."
All this would tell you about the perp is what kind of video games he/she likes.
ETA: I'd be willing to bet the majority of mass shooters play NBA and NFL video games more than any others.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:09 pm to PeepNCroom
Horrible deal, and NOT representative of The Right, nor MAGA folks. My prayers to all the victims families.
I will say it's sad the van driver did not get the same coverage though...
I will say it's sad the van driver did not get the same coverage though...
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:05 pm to PeepNCroom
And now race-baitin Crump is all up in it. geez.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:37 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Claimed he was driven to racism by posts the chans
Too bad he didn't stare at the balls
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:40 pm to imjustafatkid
The whole video games cause violence argument is legitimately one of the most retarded things for people to still purportedly believe in. There have been many many many exhausting studies on this by many people who were very motivated to prove it true. Guess what? It’s not.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:53 pm to td01241
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The whole video games cause violence argument is legitimately one of the most retarded things for people to still purportedly believe in. There have been many many many exhausting studies on this by many people who were very motivated to prove it true. Guess what? It’s not.
And... we have another gamer.... Tell me.. How many games do you own?
But yet.. spending time on 4chan or right wing web sites makes one a killer? hummmm.... thats interesting.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:58 pm to WWII Collector
I own many video games and they’re spread out over 4 different Sony Console generations and on Steam. Does that somehow completely negate the insane amount of in depth study into this by motivated parties? The causation you want just isn’t there and it’s been more concretely debunked than the wage gap.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:02 pm to td01241
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I own many video games and they’re spread out over 4 different Sony Console generations and on Steam
Thanks for proving one of my points.. Those that say there is no correlation with violence and video games... Are game players... You guys don't even want studies done... You are that afraid that they may find something.
Just like me being a gun owner and saying that guns are not the problem.... It's people... I get it.
But oh no.. Paging DR. td01241... DR. td01241 your needed in psych ward stat...
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The results showed that there was a significant positive correlation between exposure to violent video games and adolescent aggression
LINK
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:08 pm to WWII Collector
OH NO.. another one... Why are all these psychology websites putting out all this false information... The guys on tigerdroppings say that it's not true....
Playing violent video games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D or Mortal Kombat can increase a person's aggressive thoughts, feelings and behavior both in laboratory settings and in actual life, according to two studies appearing in the April issue of the American Psychological Association's (APA) Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. Furthermore, violent video games may be more harmful than violent television and movies because they are interactive,[/quote]
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Playing violent video games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D or Mortal Kombat can increase a person's aggressive thoughts, feelings and behavior both in laboratory settings and in actual life, according to two studies appearing in the April issue of the American Psychological Association's (APA) Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. Furthermore, violent video games may be more harmful than violent television and movies because they are interactive,[/quote]
LINK
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:49 pm to WWII Collector
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But I do believe that kids that play these games non stop has to play a part
Do you know how many people play video games and do not go on killing sprees? I think this incident goes far beyond playing video games to this person being absolutely insane and in desperate need of psychological treatment, which if i read correctly he had been in and out of institutions for threatening to shoot up his high school
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:48 pm to WWII Collector
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hanks for proving one of my points.. Those that say there is no correlation with violence and video games... Are game players... You guys don't even want studies done... You are that afraid that they may find something.
Ill save the rest of us the breath
You sound like a stupid, uninformed, miserable baby boomer bitch.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:41 pm to PeepNCroom
quote:Democrats be like........
White guy killed 10 in Buffalo grocery store
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