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re: While Putin doubles down in Ukraine, his gas gambit is failing
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:17 pm to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:17 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Stay away from the OT. That way you can avoid the claims that Russia lost 300 jets as an example.
I'm talking land. They're on the verge of losing Kherson as a cherry on top before winter.
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Ukraine has lost far more than Russia and it’s not close.
In terms of what, exactly? Men? armor?
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Russia has lost almost all the land they initially took at a very huge cost.
LINK?
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well, Biden closed one pipeline a week into his presidency.
Thinking he would sabotage another one isn't a conspiracy theory.
Thinking he would sabotage another one isn't a conspiracy theory.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The other question is who would help them, if it came to that.
American taxpayers assemble! No one is in a position to bail out the EU’s commercial gas needs.
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If the EU gives up, the EU is done. NATO is done. The entire international community may have to reset. You want chaos? THAT will be chaos
No, I don’t but that’s coincidentally the logic that makes me believe we destroyed Nordstream. A reset of the global order seems to be on the menu, though. Keeping Russia and China separate has been a geopolitical priority for decades yet, here we are. We’re sanctioning Russia into our own demise.
At least we’ll have get spicy NAFO memes on Twitter.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:22 pm to NC_Tigah
In March Russia was outside of Kyiv. Now Russia is about to lose Kherson
I think they recaptured 8km2 just in September
I think they recaptured 8km2 just in September
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:22 pm to JayDeerTay84
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But like I said, nothing left to rebuild. Ukraine is destined to be a wasteland now.
We will rebuild every outhouse if we need to. We've already committed people who haven't even been born yet to this conflict.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:25 pm to Snazzmeister
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Keeping Russia and China separate has been a geopolitical priority for decades yet, here we are.
I don't think many disagree that China isn't exactly happy with Russia right now
They've enjoyed the arbitrage to benefit from Russia's disruption of petro markets, but as the market stabilizes and it's clear Russia won't get a quick victory, China is risking standing in the international community (Which is values highly and Russia gives 0 fricks about).
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's going to be the cost for a while unless Russia really gives in bigly.
yeah but the cost to the Euro citizens may be too great, these current prices are not stable and could escalate even further
people freezing in the dark are riots in the making
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Europe isn't going to be buying Russian gas for a long while, most likely.
they never stopped buying
just payng a premium to proxies and middle men
still buying russian gas
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:30 pm to supatigah
I'm just waiting to see the OTs reaction when Ukraine does what it always does and goes full corrupt authoritarian
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:32 pm to supatigah
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just payng a premium to proxies and middle men
Secondary sanctions are coming at some point, like with Iran. Going to be much more difficult to be a middle man.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:32 pm to JayDeerTay84
Aid is the only thing keeping Ukraine independent and . Putin is waving around his Nuke button to stop it. Russian young men are fleeing the country not to die in a pointless way. Another mass brain drain like WW2, Putin is dooming his country's future.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Except recent protests in France and other parts of Europe suggest that article may be a bit of propaganda.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The German protests by the anti-Establishment party who would be protesting the government regardless?
You spouted this nonsense yesterday and I corrected you there but you ran off.
So again:
It’s also definitely just those far-right groups that are angry about energy prices in Germany…
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Die Linke (The Left) organized a major demonstration in Leipzig which saw the participation of thousands of people, including activists from the Socialist-Democratic Student Association (SDS) and several other leftist and antifa groups.
The rally was addressed by leftist leaders like Sören Pellmann, Amira Mohamed Ali, Martin Schirdewan, and Gregor Gysi. They called on the Traffic Light coalition government in the country – comprising the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), Free Democratic Party (FDP) and the Alliance 90/The Greens coalition – to ensure that electricity, heating, food, and bus and train transport remain affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, far-right groups including Alternative for Germany (AfD) and Free Saxons also started protests to tap the people’s anger against the government.
LINK
The point I was trying to make is that Germany is experiencing increasing domestic unrest from both sides of the political spectrum because people simply cannot afford basic living expenses. It has zero to do with being pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine.* ALL people will eventually be most concerned with their own self-interest over that of a neighbor.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think many disagree that China isn't exactly happy with Russia right now
They sure have an odd way of showing it. They’ve shut the petrodollar out of some of the largest energy transactions in the world and have opened their markets to one another in a boon to both economies. I’m sure Xi is really flustered at Russia for the damage they’re causing to the collective west while they pad China’s pocket book.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:40 pm to Lightning
OK so 2 poles of opposition groups. Tomato tomato.
Let me know when the real parties start protesting.
Sub-5% of the vote
Let me know when the real parties start protesting.
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Die Linke
Sub-5% of the vote
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Projection is fun.
You’re really confused.
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After an initial overreaction in early Spring, I was on here posting about how we need to have more cases and overly restrictive lockdowns were being very inefficient. I even made this picture.
My comment was a general one, and I think it’s a fair observation. A shitload of the Ukraine conflict cheerleaders were also Covid cheerleaders.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:41 pm to Lightning
Frenchies did work, too.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In March Russia was outside of Kyiv
quote:Sounds significant. Let me know when Kozats'ke falls.
Now Russia is about to lose Kherson
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:44 pm to Bunk Moreland
I haven't gotten to read a real article about the French ones, yet. French people are always protesting shite.
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