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re: Whether People Will Admit it or not, Israel is Screwing Up This Ceasefire

Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42099 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:39 pm to
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American citizens have been killed multiple times since way before this conflict started

1 million Iranians were killed by a guy named Saddam Hussein, who was our ally at the time. We gave he and his army weapons, money and training to invade Iran, all before our idiot populace was convinced he was an existential threat to us. That 1 million death toll is 9/11 every day for almost a year. If we should be hostile to Iran for hundreds or even thousands of death, why shouldn't they hate us for exponentially higher death tolls?
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2211 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:39 pm to
Altered has thoroughly dominated this thread. Sosfan has utterly and totally lost.

This ruling is final.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1627 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:40 pm to
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..American citizens have been killed..


This is not a serious argument. If we applied your logic then we have to make a list of countries that have killed x number of Americans and start attacking them. There are a lot of countries that would be on that list, and Iran would not be at the top of it.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:40 pm to
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How fricking stupid do you have to be to ignore that zero, None, no one would be dead and dying now if we did not start this stupid bombing campaign?


Well, considering history, this is fricking retarded.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65741 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:41 pm to
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Whether People Will Admit it or not, Israel is Screwing Up This Ceasefire


Nope, this is incorrect.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:42 pm to
Do you idiots need to hear Trump say it himself?

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Trump is not happy with either of them. Says we have two countries that "don't know what the frick they're doing" and walks off. He is more pissed at Israel than Iran. And for good reason.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 6:45 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:49 pm to
Lol posts an old arse video attempting to connect it to the current situation...
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:50 pm to
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Lol posts an old arse video attempting to connect it to the current situation...


Oh is that not new? It changes nothing. It only establishes the pattern. The same shite is happening now.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173582 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:50 pm to
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Lol posts an old arse video attempting to connect it to the current situation...

It could still apply here

It's very clear that Israel had a huge influence in dragging us into this
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40857 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:51 pm to
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Pakistanis were called in to broker the deal!


You believe the Pakistanis over the VP of the United States?

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How frickin stupid are you?




Watch out! There's a Jew near you!
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 6:51 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:51 pm to
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Oh is that not new?

No. And you know it isnt.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90529 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:51 pm to
It could apply!
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15088 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:51 pm to
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when Tyler Robinson is murdered in prison or is suicided in prison


A ton of people have been murdered or committed suicide in prison, doesn’t mean they weren’t guilty of their crimes
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:52 pm to
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It could still apply here


I mean unless he comes out and says it...just like he did in the video regarding an old arse cease fire with Lebanon, then no it doesnt.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1627 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:53 pm to
I accept your feedback, and I could have been more specific in this sentence. Let me try again;

How fricking stupid, morally bankrupt, of incompetent do you have to be to understand that no American service person had to die, or be in harm’s way, in the last five weeks if the USA had just said “No” to Israeli demands to attack Iran?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11605 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:54 pm to
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You believe the Pakistanis over the VP of the United States?



In this instance yes I do because the Pakistanis were giving a play by play as it was happening yesterday. We called them in to mediate it. And they did. It is ridiculous to now call them liars less than 24 hours later.

Yes, the deal the US and Iran tentatively agreed to as a starting point for negotiations included a region wide ceasefire. That is easily established simply looking at his tweets from yesterday as it was happening.

Maybe Vance misspoke. But either way he is wrong.

Also, again, the ceasefire never got off the ground because one party (Israel) never agreed to it at all.

No matter which way you cut it, Israel is in the wrong here.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15802 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
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million Iranians were killed by a guy named Saddam Hussein, who was 


And that has nothing to do with America...NOTHING
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
Then you would have to prove "Israel dragged us into it".

Which hasn't been close to being proven. We obviously had our own reasons.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40857 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
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How fricking stupid, morally bankrupt, of incompetent do you have to be to understand that no American service person had to die, or be in harm’s way, in the last five weeks if the USA had just said “No” to Israeli demands to attack Iran?


Are you going to ignore that the Iranians could have killed US personnel even if we didn't join in because they've been doing that for decades now? Why doesn't that count for anything?

What do you think Iran's posture would be if it attained a nuclear weapon, or even less, enough ballistic deterrent to keep us from attacking? Kill less people? Color me skeptical.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:56 pm to
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Maybe Vance misspoke.


Yeah the VP got in front of a mic and "misspoke" about the biggest geopolitical event in a decade.

Shut up.
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