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re: Where the 7 leading Candidates for Pope stand on the Issues
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:05 am to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:05 am to BamaGradinTn
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So when your Pope decides to bless gay marriages
Respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The previous Pope said it was ok for priests to bless same sex couples, not “marriages”. Blessings can be given to people who live immoral lives. This does not equate to the pope or the Catholic Church all of a sudden commending same sex marriages.
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:27 am to icecreamsnowball
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I’m an American Christian who has allegiance to the Pope
You had an allegiance to Francis?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:29 am to icecreamsnowball
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Respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The previous Pope said it was ok for priests to bless same sex couples, not “marriages”. Blessings can be given to people who live immoral lives. This does not equate to the pope or the Catholic Church all of a sudden commending same sex marriages.
Look, Tigerdroppings is the most hateful Anti-Catholic website that I have ever seen on the internet. I'm sure the FCC would be interested in many of the hateful threads we see on here.
There is NO WAY that these haters are EVER going to stop making up "facts" and distorting truth in order to try to find a way to see things more clearly. Popes and Priests "Bless" Sinners all of the time. We are all sinners, so, that makes sense. But that fact is not going to stop the haters when it comes to using this "Pope Blesses Gay Marriage" baseball bat to hit Catholics over the head.
The haters have a weapon and they will use it. If they don't have a weapon handy, history around here shows that they will just make something up and use that as the weapon of the day.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:38 am to KCT
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You had an allegiance to Francis?
What are you confused about?
Yes, for the 24ish hours that Pope Francis was alive after I was confirmed into the Church I had an allegience to Pope Francis.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:40 am to KCT
Even for us Catholics, the Pope is the Bishop of Rome. First among equals. I can always disagree or agree with him.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:54 am to Champagne
quote:While this true that all people should do a better job representing the positions of those whom they disagree with (Catholics aren’t immune from this, either), there is so much complexity and parsing of words to get around apparent contradictions that it is difficult for Catholics and non-Catholics alike to get things straight with Catholic teaching at times.
There is NO WAY that these haters are EVER going to stop making up "facts" and distorting truth in order to try to find a way to see things more clearly. Popes and Priests "Bless" Sinners all of the time. We are all sinners, so, that makes sense. But that fact is not going to stop the haters when it comes to using this "Pope Blesses Gay Marriage" baseball bat to hit Catholics over the head.
Blessing same-sex couples has apparently been an open secret but the allowance for blessing them outright (with caveats) is a change. This was viewed as a change and as progress in the LGBTQ community and met with caution and disappointment by conservative priests. Clearly these blessings are different than what was perceived prior to the change, even if you want to downplay what it is.
If you want to stop Protestants or other non-Catholics from hitting Catholicism with a baseball bat, perhaps the Pope should stop handing out the bats.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:54 am to icecreamsnowball
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Yes, for the 24ish hours that Pope Francis was alive after I was confirmed into the Church I had an allegience to Pope Francis.
Francis was a heretic and a Globalist puppet. You couldn't figure that out?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:21 am to cajunangelle
Parolin is the biggest globalist according to Posobiec.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:24 am to cajunangelle
I'm not Catholic but I'd vote for the ones with the most X's
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:33 am to cajunangelle
Lets be clear about one thing
" Blessing Same Sex Couples" is not the Church sanctioning or endorsing Same Sex Marriages.
It is no different than a Muslim family going to a catholic church and receiving a blessing.
Its the biggest nothing burger out there that the media and non catholics contort to fit a specific narrative.
The church is eternal and will never endorse or sanction same sex marriages
" Blessing Same Sex Couples" is not the Church sanctioning or endorsing Same Sex Marriages.
It is no different than a Muslim family going to a catholic church and receiving a blessing.
Its the biggest nothing burger out there that the media and non catholics contort to fit a specific narrative.
The church is eternal and will never endorse or sanction same sex marriages
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:34 am to KCT
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Francis was a heretic and a Globalist puppet. You couldn't figure that out?
My bad, I thought you were a serious person.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:54 am to SkiUtah420
quote:The announcement from the Pope regarding this was perceived as a change of position at least in some regard by Catholics. Liberal Catholics who are LGBTQ-identifying saw it as a positive step forward while conservative Catholics--including priests--were concerned about it.
" Blessing Same Sex Couples" is not the Church sanctioning or endorsing Same Sex Marriages.
It is no different than a Muslim family going to a catholic church and receiving a blessing.
I don't think it's as much of a "nothing burger" as you and others are making it out to be. Perhaps it's not as bad as officiating a same-sex wedding, but it marked a change in sentiment on the subject that troubled many conservative Catholics, including priests.
And that doesn't even touch on the general topic of priests offering blessings to non-Christians in an impartative sense.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:01 am to FooManChoo
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The announcement from the Pope regarding this was perceived as a change of position at least in some regard by Catholics.
And those Catholics who perceived what he was saying this way were incorrect to have done so, and they should have actually listened or read what the Pope said.
Pope Francis was very clear that same sex marriage will never happen in the Church and saying that it is okay to bless people actively engaged in a sinful lifestyle isn’t controversial at all.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:10 am to FooManChoo
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The announcement from the Pope regarding this was perceived as a change of position at least in some regard by Catholics. Liberal Catholics who are LGBTQ-identifying saw it as a positive step forward while conservative Catholics--including priests--were concerned about it.
I don't think it's as much of a "nothing burger" as you and others are making it out to be. Perhaps it's not as bad as officiating a same-sex wedding, but it marked a change in sentiment on the subject that troubled many conservative Catholics, including priests.
And that doesn't even touch on the general topic of priests offering blessings to non-Christians in an impartative sense.
It was perceived as a change in the Church's position by those Catholics who fall for the sky-screamers sky screaming and the anti-Catholic world's anti-Catholic narrative that isn't true.
Read the document. It is so clear that it doesn't condone same-sex couples. It's clear that the blessing is not for the union. It is clear that the blessing isn't supposed to in any way, shape, or form look like a wedding. It's merely asking God to work in their lives. Why would we not want God to work in the lives of everyone?
What's happened is a bunch of dumbasses who want it to say something it doesn't have run with it. It's the same thing that happens with the media and our reactionary culture as what happens with everything else. People want it to say that Catholics have changed their teaching on homosexuality so they can either celebrate their progressive worldview's victory or attack the pope and Catholicism. The problem is, it doesn't say that Catholics have changed their view on homosexuality.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:14 am to FooManChoo
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The announcement from the Pope regarding this was perceived as a change of position at least in some regard by Catholics. Liberal Catholics who are LGBTQ-identifying saw it as a positive step forward while conservative Catholics--including priests--were concerned about it.
I don't think it's as much of a "nothing burger" as you and others are making it out to be. Perhaps it's not as bad as officiating a same-sex wedding, but it marked a change in sentiment on the subject that troubled many conservative Catholics, including priests.
And that doesn't even touch on the general topic of priests offering blessings to non-Christians in an impartative sense.
Dude I'm catholic
Of course my first reaction was disapproval, however once you actually read Francis' actual statement its very apparent this is just a blessing of a lay person and not an endorsement
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:20 am to cajunangelle
Wish he weren’t 79 years old already, but my vote would be for Cardinal Robert Sarah. Copied from Google AI overview.
known for his traditional Catholic beliefs and conservative views on moral issues, often clashing with the more progressive stances of Pope Francis. He is a vocal advocate for traditional teachings on sexual morality, the right to life, and the importance of the Eucharist. He has also criticized modern liberal theology and what he sees as the decline of Western civilization
known for his traditional Catholic beliefs and conservative views on moral issues, often clashing with the more progressive stances of Pope Francis. He is a vocal advocate for traditional teachings on sexual morality, the right to life, and the importance of the Eucharist. He has also criticized modern liberal theology and what he sees as the decline of Western civilization
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:10 am to Mahootney
WHITE SMOKE we have a Pope.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:13 am to cajunangelle
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Pierbattista Pizzaballa
That's his real name? Pizzaballa?
I'm hoping they elect Cardinal Guido Mozareallastick. Either him or Cardinal Luigi Marinarasauce
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This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:22 am to L.A.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:28 am to loogaroo
Is his first name Peter? It can take a half an hour to 45 minutes to announce who the Pope is.
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