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re: Where is Bill Barr?

Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:43 am to
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:43 am to
Barr and Wray need to be fired immediately after the election. Time to bring back Ric Grenell to the admin as head of FBI to clean shop, and maybe someone like Ted Cruz to run DoJ. Especially if Rs hold senate.

ETA: Devin Nunes would be good too as AG.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:50 am to
Well the Senate has to confirm an FBI position after the president appoints him/her. So essentially we again will have swamp confirming swamp. There is no hope. Firing Barr will have little to no effect.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146657 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:51 am to
good question. as soon as I heard that Graham had meetings almost daily/weekly with Barr I knew the fix of the fix was in.

Jones & others associated with the Alfalfa bank may get the same sentence as Clinesmith 0 to 0 months.

On Lou Dobbs Rudy said the computer store owner called the FBI and told them he was afraid for his life-the FBI then took the laptops and said, keep your mouth shut & nothing will happen to you.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10191 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:51 am to
He took action that Trump felt violated the attorney client relationship between Justice and Executive.

Meaning he failed to shill 135% for Dear Leader even though he's (Constitutionally) not Drump's lawyer.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:59 am to
Maybe old habits die hard, and I know I will be mocked for this - but I “Trust Barr.” He is my sexy unsexy old boyfriend and I stand by my man.

In the Ukrainian phone call - Trump told Zolensky that Barr would be reaching out to him, and so would Rudy. It is a dual track Y’all. Trump is fighting a war on 2 fronts - information and legal. Rudy-Information; Barr-legal.

I know y’all get sick of hearing it but any kind of litigation takes time, and this Biden shite is bad. Not only bad - but that’s a LOT of information. There’s no way other prominent politicians are not involved in this shite or else Biden would have been busted a long time ago. Those assholes are perfectly willing to throw each other under the bus; Biden did it with his own fricking children. That’s a lot of info to process, in a lot of different languages and alphabets and not a lot of time.

I think Barr/Trump/Rudy realized they ran out of time for indictments, so they got the info to Rudy for him to use to make sure Trump got re-elected. I think if Trump loses (and I’m NOT putting that in the universe bc TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN), the contingency plan is to announce an indictment(S).

If Trump was pissed at Barr - he would be bitching about him all the time. He’s not.

Now Wray. Can get fricked. Trump needs to fire him. And my girl Sidney needs to take over and clean house.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53205 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:03 am to
I thought National Review had a good summary at the end.

quote:

1. As I’ve been saying since shortly after we learned of Durham’s appointment, the longer his investigation stretched into 2020, the more difficult — if not practically impossible — it would be to announce anything prior to the election. The Justice Department has obviously put a lot of work into what it has always maintained is a good-faith investigation. It does not want that work excoriated as a political campaign stunt. Durham has a well-founded reputation, earned in big assignments under administrations of both parties, as a straight-arrow who does not factor politics into the exercise of prosecutorial discretion.

2. Durham got unlucky: In February/March, the coronavirus pandemic shut down grand juries. For weeks, it was impossible to travel to conduct critical witness interviews. A prosecutor can’t effectively interview key players by Zoom or telephone. You have to get in a room with them, show them documents, and look them in the eye.

3. Barr says Durham is working methodically to try to build cases. If you’re doing serious prosecutions, you can’t indict until a case is so ready you could go to trial. Recall Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment of Russian businesses. When it was unexpectedly challenged by an indicted business that demanded its day in court, the case fell apart, and the Justice Department had to dismiss it to avoid further embarrassment. That’s what happens when an indictment is more like a press release than the result of a criminal investigation that diligently nails down all the loose ends.

4. Regardless of whether Durham files indictments, Barr has long indicated there is going to be a narrative report. The Justice Department does not ordinarily publish the evidence against uncharged people, though it is certainly legitimate to publish a report on government misconduct, particularly if DOJ itself is implicated. DOJ’s inspector General routinely does that. There would be tremendous controversy if a report on Obama-administration misconduct were released right before an election in which Obama’s vice president is the Democratic Party candidate. Barr is patently mindful of the condemnation that came former FBI director Comey’s way when, under no obligation to do so, he publicly reopened the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton just days before the 2016 election.

5. Another major criticism of the Clinton emails investigation was that the FBI and DOJ factored the election calendar into the investigative judgment to close the investigation — doing so by Comey’s highly irregular press conference in early July 2016, which seemingly got Mrs. Clinton out from under in time for her formal nomination at the Democratic convention three weeks later.

6. The Justice Department’s decision does not mean there will be no more “Russiagate” disclosures. DOJ and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have been pushed by Senator Lindsey Graham’s Judiciary Committee investigation of FISA abuse, as well as Senator Ron Johnson’s Homeland Security Committee investigation into other aspects of the Trump–Russia probe, to declassify and disclose important information. There have been significant disclosures in the last three weeks, and I expect that will continue.

No Durham report or indictments before election day.

Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13162 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:08 am to
Why not? Is there something in the report that would affect the election?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146657 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:10 am to
It was also reported there is a grand jury, speculation no one has really appeared before it but maybe Jones and some Alfalfa bank workers.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:11 am to
Barr is the biggest fricking disappointment in my lifetime.

I'm so fricking tired of these traitorous criminal MFs.

Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2753 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:12 am to
What happens if there is actionable, indictable material showing patterns of corruption and Biden wins? All of this goes away and is swept under the rug after the entirety of the white hats get fired or killed. This is my nightmare scenario.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Shouldn't Barr or Wray be answering questions on how long the FBI has had possession of Hunter's laptop?

On the new Pedo Island dining at the all you can eat buffet.

In a word, compromised.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53205 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:13 am to
I agree completely and it's upsetting.
Posted by purpleandgoldhaze
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2015
134 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:14 am to
He's doing what he's supposed to do-- keeping DOJ out of the political limelight this close to the election. Something which Comey famously failed to do (I know, different and subordinate role). Unfortunately, depending on how this election goes, 1) either the Durham investigation will never see the light of day 2) only part of it will come to light in the lame duck period before Biden squelches it, or 3) the FBI will press the investigation to its rightful conclusion with a Republican presidency.

Given the stakes, I admire Barr for sticking to his guns on this one and wish the Dems were similarly honor-bound.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30009 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:14 am to
Biden couldn't make indictments/prosecution go away that Trump instituted a few months prior??
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Maybe old habits die hard, and I know I will be mocked for this - but I “Trust Barr.” He is my sexy unsexy old boyfriend and I stand by my man.

In the Ukrainian phone call - Trump told Zolensky that Barr would be reaching out to him, and so would Rudy. It is a dual track Y’all. Trump is fighting a war on 2 fronts - information and legal. Rudy-Information; Barr-legal.

I know y’all get sick of hearing it but any kind of litigation takes time, and this Biden shite is bad. Not only bad - but that’s a LOT of information. There’s no way other prominent politicians are not involved in this shite or else Biden would have been busted a long time ago. Those assholes are perfectly willing to throw each other under the bus; Biden did it with his own fricking children. That’s a lot of info to process, in a lot of different languages and alphabets and not a lot of time.

I think Barr/Trump/Rudy realized they ran out of time for indictments, so they got the info to Rudy for him to use to make sure Trump got re-elected. I think if Trump loses (and I’m NOT putting that in the universe bc TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN), the contingency plan is to announce an indictment(S).

If Trump was pissed at Barr - he would be bitching about him all the time. He’s not.

Now Wray. Can get fricked. Trump needs to fire him. And my girl Sidney needs to take over and clean house


You my girl, Wednesday (I never did like that B, Friday) but I'm struggling with this unsexy MF. He ain't doing shite and these traitorous criminal bastards are trying to steal the whole thing and literally start CWII.

His arse needs to do his fricking job
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30009 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:20 am to
Trump/Barr filing indictments right now would not and could not stop a Biden administration from simply dismissing every last bit of it his first day in office if he so chose. That really needs to be considered by many people who insist that filing now is the silver bullet. It ain't.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37609 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:30 am to
quote:

I know y’all get sick of hearing it but any kind of litigation takes time,


I think Trump's frustration with Barr isn't about Biden but more about Russia-gate, the spying on his campaign, the bogus FISA court warrants, and then using that information as grounds for impeachment. Trump wants scalps nailed to the wall over this especially before the election and Barr isn't delivering. Brennan, Claper, Comey, Strozk, and Page should be indicted by now and there is plenty of information known about this. Trump wants to the American people to know what the Obama administration orchestrated and Biden was complicit in all of it.

That said, I have heard Barr address this directly: while it was flimsy, clearly politically motivated, and unethical was it technically illegal? That is what Barr is struggling with and the the answer is maybe not.

Barr has done a great job at rooting out the political bias and restoring confidence in the DOJ but Trump wants accountability for the actors and he isn't getting it. I think it would be a mistake firing Barr but Trump is gonna be Trump and he shite canned Sessions with the quickness. If Barr won't bring indictments Trump will find someone who will.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

His arse needs to do his fricking job


He is. And right now his job is requiring him to stay quiet.

How do you think the computer guy found Rudy? I think Barr found out about this and knew they didn’t have enough time to go thru all this shite so he connected computer guy with Rudy. How the frick does a random computer guy know who Rudy Guiliani’s lawyer is? I have no idea who Rudy’s lawyer is.

Plus - The computer guy at some point said the FBI reached out to him in the hit piece article that Politico wrote about him when they said he was a Russian agent. Last I checked, Barr does have some influence with the FBI; and he probably knows who Rudy’s lawyer is.

Just sayin . . .

PS And I know I’m your girl. ;) I’m good with that.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:37 am to
quote:

while it was flimsy, clearly politically motivated, and unethical was it technically illegal? That is what Barr is struggling with and the the answer is maybe not.


Correct.

This may be an example of a “high crime and misdemeanor” (cough, cough Barack Obama), but it’s probably still a technical illegality that is not sending someone away to jail forever.

The Chinese Gvt paying you billions in exchange for the Presidency is another matter entirely.

Barr is keeping his powder dry. Trump isn’t firing him. Trump is one litigious bastahd. Trump knows this shite takes time.

There’s a plan. Rudy/Trump/Barr are a team.

Plus OMG - I thinK that Chinese guy from FlexDawg’s video may be Q
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 10:47 am
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